Punishments are official

His log of bangs doesn’t prove cheating. MLB’s investigation and the Astros players admitting to the banging is the proof. He just took that already established evidence and logged it into categories.

Someone was going to do something similar eventually. I’m glad it was he and not someone with a biased eye (ear) against the Stros.

Never read the comments is one of my rules. They add nothing to your life.

I can only imagine…I never read the comments.

I don’t read them either.

https://www.baseballprospectus.com/news/article/56750/moonshot-the-banging-scheme-hurt-the-astros-as-much-as-it-helped-them/

Money quote:

And when you do all of that, the net effect of the banging comes astonishingly close to being zero. Nothing. Statistically, for all the work and effort that went into the cheating scheme, the grand result of it, at least as measured in this way, turned out to be no runs at all.

In very short, what Jim said - dumbasses.

Dumbasses yes, but then they got a thirty-year sentence for a speeding ticket.

Fucking laughingstock.

Best GM in the game, best manager in the game: gone.

Astroball may have died all because of an idiotic self inflicted wound.

All to the delight of rival front offices across the game.

Same here Thompsong. I live in North Carolina as well and non Astros fans (Who is most everyone here) will say, “You know they never mention the home and road splits” Also, I point out that Jomboy seems to think Fiers use of pine tar during the 2018 no hitter is funny. His video has Fiers all but pawing himself with his pine tar glove every pitch.

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They got a 10 year sentence for hanging their ass out the window as they sped past the cop. Ticket says speeding, but context matters and dumbasses do get worse sentences. Still not fair, but don’t show your ass to a cop if you want fairness.

Crane made it a 30 year sentence. Either that was dumb and is self-inflicted, or it was justified and only a matter of time. Either way, that’s not on the judge.

You left out the part about the cool guys giving the goofy kid the slip, after a couple of years, the goofy kid went back to school and told the editor of the school paper about the time when the cool guys mooned the sleeping cop. Then the school paper came out and exposed the boys, someone woke up the cop who was still sleeping in his cruiser; while in the meantime some amature film-maker went on public access television and showed his amature film of the guys driving by the cop with their asses hanging out. By then the cop was so embarrassed he put down his doughnuts and wrote the boys up for murder.

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Then the police chief proudly declares that the matter of murder has been dealt with and there is no need to continue investigation of open cases.

Curt Schilling was discussing this, and allowed that the lack of player punishment, and retention of the 2017 trophy, meant that the ultimate incentive is left in place. The assumption is that vacating the trophy will be proportionate to the offense. Road games will be a circus this season

I am sitting in a deli in NYC right now (eating a ridiculous Rueben) listening to old men bitch about the Astros but also discuss their competition this coming year and completely ignoring the Astros. They genuinely think our boys are unable to hit without knowing what pitch is coming. In a way, I kind of can’t wait for this season.

These guys also think they are going to trade for Arenado.

And they might be able to do it. In all the hand-wringing about “fairness”, nobody says anything about the structural inequity that allows the Yankees a huge advantage in revenue because of the size of their market and their ability to veto any other entrant into that market.

Which deli?

JackAstro labeled this whole thing “Banghazi” on Twitter and dammit, if I have to be stuck with that in my head, then all of you do too.

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Sarge’s. Have to admit it was pretty legit. Strong on opinions and pastrami, weak on knowledge and pricing.

That man is a national treasure.

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In the beginning I was wondering how much you had paid for your sandwich and, laughing to myself, I imagined you might have paid $17.

Now that I know where you were eating I know how much you paid. And, as it happens not infrequently, it turns out I was wrong.

At $25 a throw we better be taking about one charming muffukkin sandwich.