Electric Vehicles

Fires.

It would be funny if somebody builds dumpsters with vents in the bottom so that fires can really breathe.

Mike Fires?

Dumpster should have been his nickname.

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So Tesla is underreporting accidents at their factories, gaslighting owners into paying to repair warranty issues, lying about the safety of its driver assistance features, misrepresenting range figures, over-promising and under-delivering on almost everything it does; yet the stock price goes up and stays up based purely on the words uttered by Musk, even if those words are “go fuck yourself”.

There has to be a fall coming…right?

When the only rational trade is to sell short, the only way the price moves is up.

I hope he had Old Glory Robot Insurance

Metalhead.

A worker injury rate roughly 60% higher than the industry median would certainly seem significant.

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“Hey man! We fixed 120,000 of our shitboxes for free!”

Tesla may be looking for a new social media person.

Anecdotal reports on social media - so double asterisk - are that the CyberTruck gets less than 180 miles on a full charge. This is without a load on the flat bed and/or anything in tow.

Now, I suspect new owners may be showing off the sub-3 seconds 0-60mph and are unlikely to be operating under best battery-saving driving practices, but that’s still only a little more than half the claimed range.

The claimed range was always too little - as is the actual range of the F150 Lightning - but, even allowing for new owners to calm down, this seems untenable. The CT is soooo heavy that it has to have a giant battery. So that means it will take forever to charge, even on a Tesla SuperCharger given the 400V architecture.

Using an F150 as a work truck - where range is far less valuable than it being a giant battery pack on wheels - is totally viable. The EPA range test for trucks (which the CT has not yet done) is performed with a half-ton load. Commuting/school runs/shopping would work with either truck, but why would you buy one to do just that?

But long-distance driving and/or towing in a truck is still far beyond the ability of battery and charging tech. The CT seems designed specifically to prove that fact.

I can’t tell that the CT was designed to prove anything.

It proved that Elon’s emotional development ended at age 6.

To be fair, it was designed for and is proving that Tesla has their finger on the pulse of what some buyers want. That is a design based package that expresses rugged individualism and projects a certain image. The massive list of pre-orders and the fact that many are not backing out as these first units roll off the line is proof of that.

It’s easy to poke fun at and pick apart Elon Musk and Tesla. The fact is, there are well understood challenges with forcing your way into durable goods manufacturing with disruptive product here in the states and most fail within the first decade. I expect that Tesla will continue to iterate rapidly, will make mistakes and pivot, and will remain a viable going concern for the foreseeable future. And their impact will change the automotive industry forever.

I agree on the industry disruption, but Tesla has already done that and now the industry is passing them by and/or Tesla is going backwards.

They started with the roadster, which was an expensive niche product that proved that an EV can be something more than a slow soap dish on wheels (although arguably GM already did that in the 90s with its EV).

Then Tesla made the luxury sedan, then the luxury SUV, then the sedan that competed with import sedans, then the “import” SUV.

The CyberTruck is back to making an expensive
niche product but this time it is a giant leap backwards in car technology. Meanwhile, the major car makers are putting out far more functional competing models at a fraction of the price.

Dude is going to end up getting chopped up into little pieces.

https://www.axios.com/2023/12/31/elon-musks-x-fidelity-valuation-cut

Fidelity believes that X is worth 71.5% less than at the time of purchase, according to a new disclosure that runs through the end of November 2023 (Fidelity revalues private shares on a one-month lag).

A guy in Spring-Cypress let his Tesla on FSD make an illegal right turn and ram him into a concrete neighborhood sign.

The insurance company - Tesla Insurance - totaled the car, presumably the battery pack was damaged, and the owner is very upset at the payout offered: $45,000 for a Model Y with 29,000 miles on it.

Prices for used Teslas plummeted when they dropped the prices of new cars post-pandemic. The owner mentions the FSD package, which I suspect may be the biggest point of contention because it has almost-zero value on the secondhand market, so he’s going to be SOL.

Tesla does not allow the FSD license to be transferred - which is just another reason why it is a galactic rip-off. This guy just gave Musk $16,000 for the FSD on his old car that was killed by [checks notes] FSD, and he wants another Tesla with FSD. :man_shrugging:

Speaking of FSD, in order to get your shiny (pre-finger prints) new CyberTruck, you are required to buy FSD. Yet, even though you’ve just been extorted out of $16,000, the CT doesn’t even have a the basic drive assist package working yet.

Also, the CCCS charging adapter doesn’t fit.

This truck was first presented as a prototype four years ago.

What…the actual fuck?