It’s better than that. Seoul by itself is just short of 10 million people. Iowa, with its miles and miles of corn fields and pig farms, is just over 3 million people. And I doubt that those numbers are a result of Iowa testing more aggressively than S. Korea.
But Iowa has Joni Ernst and Steve King, so they’ve got that going for them.
To put it into further perspective, South Korea right now has 1,082 active cases. About the same as Ft. Bend County.
I hope people just don’t sit around blaming Trump for everything and when he is gone think that this won’t happen again. NYC is incredibly vulnerable to pandemics and was not prepared at all. NYC is one of the richest places on earth and there was no excuse for it. I’ve been reading people blaming the lack of testing for NYC not shutting down earlier which is idiotic.
This is on par with Trump’s insistence that Obama left him with broken tests. The idea that the federal government’s total failure to do anything of value in the face of this crisis is not central to the consequence the country is enduring is fucking idiotic.
There was a department in DHS dedicated to tracking global pandemic threats; Trump closed it down in 2017.
There were CDC staff embedded in Wuhan up to as recently as 2019; Trump recalled them and never replaced them.
It’s not a state’s job to track global threats. You cite New York, but what about Iowa and Nebraska and other mid-west states currently suffering the worst outbreaks?
It’s the federal government’s job to do this work. Trump neutered the government’s ability to do that work and so he bears the responsibility for the failure.
And at the risk of piling on, he had - generously - a two month head start between January and March to prepare and he blew it off. Then we bought him another two months by staying at home, and he blew that off. Now there are nearly 80,000 dead and 33 million unemployed, with no end in site. He owns all of it.
NYC is connected to the rest of the world and the country the way other cities in the US are not. It’s also the densest part of the country which makes it a lot more vulnerable to contagious diseases. The city does a lot of local work on terrorist response and preparation. It should do the same for pandemics and should have already have done it.
SF Mayor Breed, who was a new mayor and not super popular, didn’t have trouble getting 6 Bay Area counties shut down and Gov. Newsom followed suit shortly after, so Trump wouldn’t have stopped de Blasio from doing it first and I have no doubt people were telling the mayor to do it weeks before he did. Absolutely nothing else would have helped the country more than that one act.
I completely agree that NYC was too slow to act and their outbreak was exponentially (literally) worse as a result. But that doesn’t excuse the Trump administration denying the pandemic entirely for months.
Meanwhile, cities and states have all seen what happened in New York and - absent coherent leadership from the federal government - are making up their own rules and allowing their own outbreaks to explode.
So, DeBlasio fucked up. Is this some absurd rebuttal to Trump’s incompetence and lack of leadership, or just deflection? Are Deblasio’s failures responsible for the economic collapse throughout the country? Are Debalsio’s failures responsible for ensuring that the “rebound” nationally will be as tepid as possible? Does he continually work to tear us apart when we should be coming together?
Seriously, that’s some major league deflection.
No not a deflection just seeing a lot of people on social media trying to let NYC gov’t off the hook.
This might not be the place for Trump apologists to post. Not naming names, but I’m just sayin’.
LOL Jim. It’s all Trump and his Republican enabler’s fault. Well, actually just the bad shit is their fault. But I’m not worried, I know eventually the Democrats will save us for they are right and good and pure in heart. And good always wins over evil.
What an idiotic post. There are plenty of competent Republicans who care about this country and its people. There have been competent and good Republican Presidents. I am no yellow dog Democrat. I vote Dem in local elections Usually but have voted Republican in Some presidential elections. Your comments are insulting.
Trump is evil. He is a traitor. He is a thug and a criminal. His denial and incompetence have created this public health disaster. We were not ready for a pandemic because of him. He is a lying narcissist who has chosen re-election over Americans’ lives. He is a disgrace to the office he holds.
Go fishing or something in November.
Easy Jim, I was not being serious. You know me.
I have never been able to subscribe 100% to either political party. Call me names if you wish, I don’t care. Some issues I am very liberal other issues I’m pretty conservative. Trump is a terrible person and a horrible president and every day I am pissed at the Democrat party for allowing him to become president because they thought the ineffectual wife of an ex-president was their best candidate. And I fear Biden will be inadequate as well.
A few points:
Republicans nominated Trump. Perhaps Republican have some level of responsibility.
Hillary Clinton is a twice elected Senator and former Secretary of State. These are actual qualifications.
It’s the Democratic party.
It is true that NY city and state could and should have been shut down earlier. Cuomo criticized Newsome for shutting down CA right before he did the same. However, The U.S. government knew everything the South Korean government knew when they knew it. Had Trump not destroyed the Pandemic preparedness infrastructure and had he and Jared taken it seriously from the start, the U.S. could have reacted in a similar fashion to S.K. and closing any major city would have been unnecessary.
That’s very bizarre logic. Very.
How about being pissed off at the people who brought Trump to us as the Republican nominee, or the people who voted for him and the people who continue to support him, even after witnessing his incompetency? At the moment, the last category is the most important, because without them, the country would have a much better chance of success.
You continue to project a “they’re all equally bad” take. It’s a pretty damn lazy take, IMO.
Republicans, notably Mitch McConnell, created the environment in which a character like Trump can rise. Fox News helped…a lot.
Republicans who were disgusted by and insulted by Trump all fell into line behind him once he became the nominee and then president.
Republicans have defended and protected Trump throughout his presidency. Notably Senate Republicans who - with the exception of Mitt Romney - saw all the evidence of Trump’s crimes and decided to keep him in power, a number of them publicly admitting Trump’s guilt while doing so.
At any point along this long and descending road, Republicans had the opportunity to reject Trump. At every point, they chose power over principle. As far as I’m concerned, anyone still identifying as a Republican is complicit and an accomplice in everything that Trump has done and is doing.
And Trump is killing people.
Lots.
True with one critical difference–one was responsible for not losing, the other one was responsible for not winning.
Yes, she is qualified. And qualifications are an important considerations. And I’m sorry for mentioning anything political on this thread. I very much appeciate the COVID-19 info you have shared.
My political dogma allows me to be angry at not all but most Republicans as well as most Democrats.
I bet you aren’t the only one who thinks that. I almost don’t give a shit what I project or what your your opinion of it is, but, I don’t think that, “ther’re all equally bad.” I think thery all equally fucked up but there is some good and a lot of bad in both. And I am pretty lazy. Sorry again for going off topic.