Pardon me, but do owners not have the right to set the length of employee contracts? Maybe many choose
multi- year, but that is not required.
Tell your boss Monday you want a multi-year deal or you’ll leave. Good luck.
Again, most GM contracts are multi-year, and a one-year contract is a below-market offer for a GM.
Ok, I understand. Just remember there are plenty of teams in the NFL that haven’t won one championship since the cowboys won three. You know what I’m going to do tonight…I’m going to fall asleep to a replay of Game 6 and the after celebration tonight. Glorious.
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Good employees do not grow on trees. I’ve certainly told my bosses to stick it, and where has it gotten me?
Better work situations and better salary. And I suspect the same will happen with Mr. Click.
They have the right to negotiate.
Let me get this straight though
Leave because somebody offers you more money to do the same job? Ego
Ask for more than 1 year because everyone else in you industry gets more than 1 year? Ego
Turn down more money in search of more long term security? Ego
He was offered one year and more money to continue as GM of the WS Champions. Who gives a fuck what other GMs get elsewhere if I am happy right here? I will take the one year contract and work hard to patch up the relationship. I must have a good relationship with my boss to be as successful as I can be. That is how I think.
Ego, for sure, because he could not face his peers who had more years. He also must have been unhappy. He left; good for him.
I think you are leaving out the money factor.
Admittedly I have no idea what the money looked like, if Crane offered a well-above-market annual salary it would mitigate the short contract length. I haven’t seen any indication the money looked like that though.
If not ego, then what?
Knowledge (or reasonable expectation) that he will be more secure and better compensated elsewhere.
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The internet says Click was making $1 million before the raise, but I have not seen what the raise was.
ONE MILLION DOLLARS. Pretty good salary.
That expectation is ego driven.
Then fucking go.
I’m done.
Anybody that doesn’t sign for however long and for however much mr Crane decides they are worth is an ego driven maniac.
Find a good GM and fast Crane. There’s work to be done
As far as the comparisons to Jerry Jones, I will only be concerned about that if Crane officially makes himself the GM.
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I’d say “seeking your market value” and “having a big ego” are different but that’s a matter of perspective.
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Dusty had always been paid more than Click. They’re paid according to how much the owner values them. While a General Manager may rank higher in a typical company hierarchy than a Manager, it’s not the same in the MLB, they have different jobs to do and both of their require co-operation with the other and both need to be on the same page with the ownership.
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Click and Dusty did a fantastic job stabilizing a franchise that MLB clearly tried to blow up.
We’ve waited our whole lives for these Astros teams. Whatever you think of Click’s employment situation, let’s not forget all the good he did for this franchise. I’d shake his hand and I bet most of you would too!
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Ego is ego. Can be small or big. I don’t necessarily think Click has a “big ego” but I guarantee you he has an ego, a sense of self, a conscious mind, dictating his decision making. At least I think he does.
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Personally speaking I’d take it in a heartbeat (and probably run the team into the ground because I’m not qualified to be a major league GM). It’s more money than I could ever dream of making. But some googling shows that’s a little below average for a major league GM, hence my comment that it’s a below-market offer—especially since most GMs are on multi-year contracts and most of them don’t have Click’s record of success. Though as you say we don’t know what the offered 2023 salary was.
(For reference, Luhnow’s contract appears to have run through 2023—I think it was a 5-year deal—and in his wrongful termination suit he sought $22M in unpaid salary alone. I wouldn’t expect Click to make what Luhnow made but I do not think his value was that much lower.)
(Edited to correct Luhnow’s lawsuit demands)