I agree with this 100%.
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Donât let Verlander end up on Boston or whoever.
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Well shit, maybe he doesnât and thatâs why Crane wasnât thrilled with him.
Everyone does. I was an employment lawyer for almost 40 years. When faced with dissatisfaction of his/her employer, no employee ever said âYou are right. I must improve.â Ego drives every one of us and sometimes leads to poor decisions.
Ah. Maybe your work experience has colored your viewpoint? I hear a lot of things about employees having unrealistic expectations, but nothing about employers.
Or his son.
I always found Click self-effacing, thoughtful veering into intelligent, careful, well spoken, soft spoken and generally likable in the way he came across. Which, honestly, makes him an outlier in almost every way to all of his predecessors with whom Iâm familiar with the possible exception of Tal.
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I had the same impression, which is probably why I find myself otherwise inexplicably arguing in defense of his character on the internet on a Friday night. (Well, that and because my mother-in-lawâs in town and this is a nice distraction.)
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I do not know him, as I said. Apparently you do. I was giving my general impression from watching him on TV.
I am well aware that Crane may end up hiring someone better than Click, better than Luhnow, but itâs entertaining to me that anyone could look at this contretemps and come away with the notion that the ego thatâs driving this is necessarily Clickâs.
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I was doing the same. In this case you and I are obviously perceiving things in a different way.
Iâm just want to say Iâm not upset with Crane, nor am I upset with Click. I have faith in Crane and wish Click nothing but the best so long as his work doesnât directly affect the Astros.
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No doubt. I never had to deal with an employerâs unrealistic expectation, but if I thought they were wrong, I told them so and did not support a decision I thought to be wrong or illegal. An employer has every right to demand performance and attitude he/she deems to be acceptable as long as they stay within the law.
I also am not upset with either one, and I think this entire back and forth here is nothing but hot air based on no knowledge whatsoever. Good luck to Click wherever he lands, and good luck to Crane with hiring a new GM and with convincing JV to reup.
I also want to add I think Click did a good job, to the extent I can know his actions, but I do not think he is indispensable. He inherited a good situation and did his best to make it better. I wish him successful things for his future.
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I am shocked.
It is a clash of egos for sure, and one absolutely has a self inflated large one.
I never, ever said or thought that. This is the clash of two big egos, as I think I said at the outset.
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I think that MLB ops department employees are a fraternity of sorts.
Not quite a union but they definitely interact with wach other, co-mingle, job hop, and pay attention to each other.
There is an expectation of what a particular job is, what the relationship is with the owner and other empliyees, and what the pay and length of contract should be.
Jim Crane owns this team and nowhere does it say he needs to know or follow this
But from what I have read and seen Jim Crane and not James Click was the person who did not act within accepted norms.
Again, he does not have to.
But I think most any GM would act similarly to Click.
And just like the Correa deal, Crane knew it would not be accepted
IMHO
Maybe they both have big egos and faults? Either way Click never came across as that impressive to me. I get that baseball people think itâs a âslap in the faceâ that Click only got a 1 year offer. I doubt he gets a better deal.
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Follow the link below to view the article.
Astros, GM Click have an ugly divorce
Donât know if this USA Today article will load, but this apparently was a doomed partnership from the start Crane had to fill slots in a hurry, and now the correction has set in
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Johnny Depp and Amber Heard was an ugly divorce.
This wasnât that.