Jim I like and respect you. But you are the same person that says a player is dead to you because they take more money to play elsewhere, you have stated multiple times in those discussions that you have turned down more money to stay where you are happy.
Click turned down the money because of ego? Come on. He turned it down because of principal. No GM would have accepted the deal. Not one.
Do you know something about Click that we donât know, or is this âegoâ thing based purely on Click turning down the offer?
Your writing is too subtle for me, I guess.
Youâre right, they donât. I never said any of them do. I am saying the most successful sports franchises have owners that mostly stay out of the way
Should managers stay out of the way too?
I sincerely doubt any other manager has veto power over a trade
Highly doubt that. Maybe less common these days for a manager to have that sway, but I think there are plenty of organizations where the owner would side with Dusty over Click in that situation.
I think your idea of a GMâs power is a bit too extreme.
Aiming at brevity, I become obscure.
Astros have been to 6 ALCS series & 4 WS in the past 6 years and won two titles. We are already successfulâŚand have done so with an Owner that you say meddles too much. Hereâs one to mull overâŚCrane sits back and allows Click to let JV walk prior to 2022 seasonâŚ.and/or he sides with Click on the Contreras dealâŚ.but, we lose in the division series. Guess what, Click gets fired anyhow. Take the damn WS win people.
He turned down the one year because of ego, not the money. Dollars had nothing to do with it.
Look, Doyce, I know nothing about what went on between Crane and Click the last couple of years. Neither do you although you act like you do. Could be the one-year contract was a wake-up call to Click that he needed to be aware there had been friction and some dissatisfaction with his work or his attitude.
I not know Click at all, but his public persona to me seems arrogant and a bit sour. Perhaps he did not think he needed a good and compatible relationship with his boss. Wrong. You do, and I did when I was working.
You excel at obscure.
I donât think itâs a mark of ego to turn down a substantially below-market offer after youâve won a World Series.
Jerry Jones won 3 SBs in 4 years at the outset of his reign as Cowboys owner.
I am not saying Crane meddles too much NOW or has in the past. I am just saying that I worry this is a trend and heâs going to involve himself too much, to the detriment of the team.
Try it with your boss. Of course it is ego. Most everyone thinks they are better than their supervisors do.
Below market? That is funny.
So if you had a boss, that offered you zero long term security, had a person who technically works under you constantly go over your head, and your boss is mirco managing you every turn, but he offered you a raise
You would accept that offer? And if you didnât it would be for ego?
Ok I guess. I strongly disagree
Why do you say that? Most GM contracts are multi-year.
I think it is funny you are worried about what might happen, especially less than a week after a WS win. You remind me of a close relative: if everything is perfect today, better worry about what might happen tomorrow.
Did you ever consider the possibility Cick might have been difficult to work with? The Contreras almost-trade tells me Click thought he was bulletproof.
I doubt any GM has ever accepted a one year deal.
Better research that; it could be the cornerstone for your argument. Texas is an at-will state, and contracts of any length are valuable. Big egos wil reject one year because they wanted three.