Your top 10 all-time Astros/Colt 45s

Haha. I thought it would be better to geek out than to freak out, but I just kept going and going :slight_smile:

TOP 10 in order

  1. (1976) Cedeno, Andujar, and Richard - my first Astros team will always love that team
  2. (1991) Bagwell, Lofton and D Kile - Bags is my favorite Stros GOAT hitter
  3. (2019) Alvarez, Tucker and Brantley - love me some lefty power
  4. (2011) Altuve, JD Martinez, and Lyles - most underrated group on this list imo (sorry Steve Finley)
  5. (1999) Berkman, Everett, and Ward - love me some more lefty power
  6. (1988) Biggio, Candaele, and Rafa Ramirez - Biggio + the greatest cup adjuster of all-time RR
  7. (1996) Wagner, Spiers, and Abreu - wonderful group that included Sean Berry too.
  8. (1980) Ryan, Morgan and Woods - or as I call them the “I’m your huckleberries”
  9. (2018) Verlander, Cole, and Valdez - only 9th because two of these guys play in NY now
  10. (1982) Doran, Bass and Knight - because I fucking love Bill Doran always have, always will.

We should build and OWA Astros Players Bingo game and sell it online or at the juice box. What a history we have!

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Amen

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Obviously I agree!

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All in favor?

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Speaking of Finley the 1991 team has always fascinated me for the talent it had for a worst in the NL team.

Obviously not yet ready for prime time talent, but amazing collection none the less.

Biggio, Bagwell, Caminiti, Luis Gonzalez, Steve Finley, Kenny Lofton

Mike Scott, Curt Schilling, Jim DeShaies, Pete Harnisch, Darryl Kile, Mark Portugal

Crazy.

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The haul (Schilling, Finley & Harnisch) for Glenn Davis was ridiculous. Too bad we let a couple of them go before they blossomed into all stars.

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I loved Finley.

A couple of years ago I found a scorecard from a game I attended where he recorded 3 OF assists.

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Lofton, what might have been

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Too soon!

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I watched him play Triple A ball with the Tucson Toros. Still pissed he was traded.

Lofton got shafted in HOF voting and I hope the various committees give him a good look. Not saying he’s a slam dunk but he deserved better than dropping off the ballot after one year.

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I never understood that either.

It finally happened for Ted Simmons, he was one and done in the initial HoF vote but the veterans committee saw fit to include him. So there’s hope for Lofton.

For me, Lofton has always been “the one that got away”. It still makes me sad.

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My Orioles buddy reminds me every season - Finley, Harnisch and Schilling for Davis is highway robbery. :laughing:

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He would have been so good in the Dome.

I was remembering this discussion while on Baseball Reference today and decided to refresh my memory – not on the name; I recognized Jim’s correction immediately. John does have an interesting career stat line though … 1.000 OBP and 1.000 fielding average.

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I read a short book about John recently, which by necessity was more about his prowess as an athlete before MLB. One game, 3-3, and he never had a second game because of injury.

The Paciorek boys all were exceptional athletes, and unfortunately four of the five (all except the youngest) were sexually abused by a teacher who became a local parish priest. Tom courageously told the world about the abuse in 2002. The boys never told anyone because of their shame, including their parents or each other.

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Wasn’t one of the boys a football star at UH? Tom, it seems.

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Tom was a starter in both football and baseball at UH. He was a DB in football and an All American OF in baseball. I do not know what, if anything, the other boys did in college. I think John signed with Houston after HS. They were from Detroit.

ETA: Younger brother Jim played football and baseball at Michigan and 48 games in MLB with the Brewers. He was a big star at Michigan in baseball. Jim was the only one of the five brothers who was not abused.

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