Hopefully the Astros are getting a boat load of money in return, if not, not just signing JV in the past offseason seems pretty dumb.
Don’t double down on bad decisions
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Exactly!
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Passan says Gilbert and Clifford
Remember when Dana Brown said we weren’t in the market for a starter? Hahaha
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1000% wrong.
That’s my feeling on this.
“Prospects are just prospects” is all well and good, but Yordan Alvarez was just a prospect when the Dodgers traded him for Josh Fields. These guys have real, quantifiable value, and the Astros just gave up a ton for a guy they could’ve had this offseason without hurting themselves in the future.
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Bullshit. I detest this attitude.
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How much OF talent has this team brought to the bigs in the past decade?
There are other Gilberts out there.
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and hopefully his name is Melton. I like Liperfido too.
No, no. Internet experts question every fucking thing.
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Aren’t the Astros prospects OF heavy anyway? And that’s not counting the McCormick/Meyers/Julks/Dubons of the team.
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While I understand how you feel, more prospects wash out than turn out like Alvarez. We’ll be fine.
Regarding the money, if the Mets don’t give us a bunch and this is just a player swap, I wholeheartedly agree with you. You should have paid the man and you could have had JV and Gilbert and Clifford. Hindsight is 20/20 though. No one could have foreseen the injuries to our rotation which certainly changed the equation.
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Dirden is having a somewhat down year but he tore it up last year. Leon is still a good prospect.
We should most certainly be trying to re sign Tucker in a couple of years. Yordan in left. The outfield is a little crowded at the moment.
You know what I’ve seen?
- The prospects the Astros give up typically have uneven results.
- The prospects the Astros acquire typically have good results.
- The big name prospects the Astros “grow” work out like 50% of the time.
- The no-name non-prospects the Astros “grow” work out like 50% of the time.
And, for those last two categories, I’d guess those success rate guesstimates far exceed most other teams.
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If they had signed him to that deal in the off-season, they would have gone over the tax enough to lose draft picks or international money, right? So it still would have had a prospect cost
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I’m excited to have the 2022 rotation top 3 starters back + Brown in for Lance.
And entire bullpen + Graveman.
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I don’t disagree, but the Astros get 20 chances (used to be much more) to develop the next Gilbert, Clifford, etc. every July. I trust their player development team to develop players that can perform at the MLB level.
The Astros have a World Series-winning caliber roster. That’s the primary focus and adding Verlander back into this rotation improves their odds in the short term.
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The whataboutism here is great considering nobody knows what went on at the negotiating table before JV went to the Mets.
Just shut up and enjoy the fact we got our guy without having to give up anything currently valuable.
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Gilbert’s on-field demeanor reminds me of Lenny Dykstra, so I think he’ll make a fine Met.
If I absolutely had to bet, I’d say Clifford turns out to be the better of the two.
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