The Void: 2022-23 Offseason

This is BS, das, and not anything I would expect from you.

I’ve always only ever said have a catch.

I’ll take 2 World Series wins in the last 6 years. I’m probably in the minority here but I wish Lunhow was still the GM.

And I think Bagwell’s point was not that he didn’t want hitters getting information or analytics in a coaching context, but that at the plate you don’t want a thousand statistics or scenarios in running through your head. Study things. Make adjustments. But when you step in the box, just be ready to hit.

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I honestly thought Ty was talking about fishing.

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I’ve never heard ‘have a catch’ in any context ever not once in my life. Until today.

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This was my first thought as well until I read it again

Never watched Field of Dreams?

Apparently “have a catch” is a New York thing.

Ditto. I always said “let’s go throw the ball around.”

Let’s keep it in New York.

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They can “have a catch” all offseason thinking about a sweep. We’ll play catch in WS gear

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Hell no. I lived in New York you know and I used to play catch regularly with a couple of friends and no one ever threatened me with this yankee ass have a catch BS.

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Exactly, HH. I told my players (and maybe have in the outline) to know the fundamentals well enough to coach themselves but to think about the adjustments/coaching points/mechanics only when out of the box. When in the box, do not think: see the ball, hit the ball.

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I did hear it in Field of Dreams, but I never heard it said in any baseball environment I was in.

They asked Costner about it before the first Field of Dreams game.

He said he hated it but the writers wouldn’t let him change the line.

I honestly thought everyone said ‘have a catch’. Although I was born in Philly and even though we moved to Houston in the 70s my older brothers still called it having a catch so I guess that’s where I get it in light of the NY video.

Not what I said, Jim. It’s no secret that Beltran imported the schemes he concocted in NY with him and used his considerable influence as a leader on the team to influence how the players operated. I’m pretty sure this is commonly accepted by most everyone here.

This was a failure on the part of the org. They brought Beltran in due to his leadership skills. It worked. They failed to anticipate exactly what leadership skills he’d be applying. Could they have known? Who knows. Should they have? Yes. But, it’s clear they did not. And, it sullied the “good guys, tough, smart players” brand that was a hallmark of the Astros for years.

I’ve never once called the Astros cheaters. They were playing in an arms-race escalation of tactics that was widespread throughout the league. And were conveniently scapegoated when caught because it was expedient for MLB to do so to a second-market team, protecting their financial and reputational interests.

Way different from what you wrote. This is more like das, imo. I could not disagree more than bringing in Beltran was a failure of the organization.

Jeez, sorry I started such an interesting culture squabble. You guys go have a pop and relax.

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