Most of those post-TNG-S3 movies would like a word.
Nemesis is the worst Trek not directed by Shatner by a wide margin.
But First Contact is one of the best, so…
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Seriously. It’s so good.
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Is he talking about the Disco writers? Maybe…
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Doesn’t excuse the dreck every single one of the others was.
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I had the house to myself for a week last summer and rewatched all the Trek movies, some I hadn’t watched in 10-20 years. Nemesis is terrible but watchable. Final Frontier is just terrible. Into Darkness is the only one that makes me want to throw things, so Final Frontier has that going for it, I guess.
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I had really forgotten how stupid the whole “No, this isn’t Khan, really!” stuff was.
Wait, what?
Have I ever told you guys my Nemesis story? This is true. Back in like 1998 or something I wrote a novella called The Valarian Duel: A Commander Riker Adventure. It was about the Enterprise getting into a deep space standoff duel with a Romulan warbird. It involved an intentional ramming and a Romulan scheme to clone Captain Picard. I put it up on a Web site called “Rate My Writing”. A while later the Web site was hacked. Like, professionally. It literally had the Jolly Rogers skull-face laughing back and forth across the screen. I’ve never seen that since.
A little while later they announced they had a new Star Trek movie under development.
If you watched Trekkies (and I know you did!) you’re aware that at the time of the filming, Nemesis was also the name of a fan-created Deep Space space station. I believe I recall reading that the idea for the story was Brent Spiner’s. Have always nurtured the self-flattering certainty that one of those dudes was skating around the proto-Web, found my goofball story and zapped the site to cover their tracks.
So: you’re welcome. And: I’m sorry.
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The studio and creative team went out of their way to tell everyone that they weren’t doing the Khan story, that Benedict Cumberbatch was absolutely, positively, NOT playing Khan. In trying to preserve the “twist” they just ended up pissing off all the fans.
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Yep. Old school Trek fans nearly died from terminal eye-rolling and new fans only on board for the Kelvin timeline were confused as to why that name was so important.
I enjoyed the first Abram Trek for its pew-pewity, and the opening scene with the aforementioned Kelvin is a great piece of movie making. But it goes off the rails hard and fast pretty quickly.
Into Darkness is stupid and annoying and Beyond is just beyond stupid and annoying.
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The dirt bike scene required writing, planning, rehearsing, and hours upon hours of cgi work.
During all this time no one stopped to say, “hey, this is monumentally stupid. This should never ever see the light of day.”
Instead they went to work on the ‘kill them with music’ sequence.
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Beyond, crap as it is, is a cinematic masterpiece compared to Into Darkness.
Ah, gotcha. I remember liking the first new one quite a bit, and I remember next to nothing about the next 2 other than having no desire to rewatch either.
I enjoyed Benadryl Cumberbund’s performance.
I have probably said it before here, but they really knocked it out of the park with the first Abrams movie. Reboot a classic crew with a great cast, split the timeline so you’re freed from the burden of decades of established canon… and you pump out a shitty remake of Wrath of Khan, perhaps the closest thing to objective perfection that Trek has ever produced and absolutely needs no improvement? Come on.
I can’t find it now but I swear there was an Onion headline during the development of Beyond that said something like “Paramount demands rewrite of Star Trek: Beyond to make it less like Star Trek”.
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I’ve probably said this before, but if you want to reboot IP, you should absolutely call Abrams. Then after the first movie/season, you should immediately boot his ass out of there.
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I remember a rather lengthy “discussion” on the topic of best sci-fi sequel: Empire Strikes Back or Wrath of Khan. This was around midnight at the Texas table at Kay’s Lounge, so we were obviously of sound mind.
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Drunk me: Define “sequel”.