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By the end of the series you learn a lot more about him and he gets some depth so it all makes sense.

Edited to add: I like his approach of killing a bunch of people quickly and efficiently if any slight problem or confrontation arises. Can’t get the lid off this jar? I’ll just shoot these guys in the head.

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Based on the comments in this thread, I started watching the show this weekend. It’s quite a good space opera. Production quality by the time they get to season two is quite good. Especially considering the first couple of seasons were filmed in 2017 and 2018, A full seven years ago.

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It’s worth a watch, the character development really accelerates in season two as does the maturity of the storytelling. It looks like they got an infusion of cash for special effects and set design based on the success of season one.

This is one of my favorite things about the show so far. Every time they spin a ship around to do a retro burn as they approach their destination, I give a small mental applaud. The frantic patching of space suits and spaceships that sustain damage looks great as well.

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Turning “space” into an adverb is genius. It’s also super alarming how often it happens in the first 1.5 seasons I’ve seen.

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The same with fighting in space across vast distances, too. I mean, we don’t even close-up fight on earth now; it’s all fire-and-forget missiles.

Also, the fact that they can see someone coming from days away (because of the retro burn) but can’t do anything about it because of the physics of their own situation. Love it!

Putin puts people out the window all the time now!

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I am on S4 and I must admit to it being a drop off from the first three, IMHO. I think this is where I jumped to when I fucked up first time around, which probably resulted in my aborting the whole process.

There is time for redemption yet though, plus 2 more seasons after this one.

Trying to remember… S4 is on the planet after they’ve gone through the ring, right? I thought that one was pretty good.

S5 and S6 cover my least favorite books, but I thought the latter still made for a pretty good season. My only real beef is that they tease the final three books throughout the season. I’m hoping we may one day get those adapted.

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I’m at the point where the tsunami has hit and they’ve discovered the green eye boogers and deadly leeches. My gripe with this season is that - having spent three seasons building an awesome ensemble cast - they had no idea what to do with them all.

Maybe it is all yet to come together, but Bobbie’s conversion to a drug dealer’s enforcer is not credible and Murtry’s motivational shifts are flat-out giving me whiplash.

Oh, and some randos beat up Amos. That is just wrong.

Working my way thru the latest Disco.

Gonna have to do this one in installments.

Yikes!

It’s been a while, but my recollection of Expanse S4 is that the Ilus/ring space storyline pretty closely follows the book upon which it is based, but it wasn’t enough to fill 10 episodes. Everything else (like the election, IIRC) was invented for the show.

I tend to agree that S1-S3 is peak TV Expanse, and S4 is pretty good. Naomi is great in S5 but overall S5-S6 pale in comparison, just like those books do to the earlier ones.

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I feel like it’s been long enough since I read the series that I could watch the series somewhat fresh.

I think that after the cool stuff that feeds the first four volumes, books 5-6 are just a narrative letdown… I didn’t care about one-note Marco Inaris, and I cared even less for his family drama.

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Every time they say “clue” or"the next clue" I die a little.

So a whistle language poem rhymes in English when it’s translated? Idiotic.

Star Trek anthropology is always shaky ground for me, not just with Disco. They tend to have the culture in question be unsophisticated in thought and speech. And the actors come off as community theater wannabes doing an exercise.

As for the plot itself its hard to believe they chose this stupid treasure hunt thing for the last season. Where do red directives stack up against the prime directive? Why does it matter because every ST franchise since the OS violates the PD? They don’t have stealth reconnaissance tech to sneak around in without disturbing the locals? (And the most important puzzle in the galaxy is being worked by, let’s see, a starship captain and whichever couple of crewmen she happens to grab for a powwow?)

Finally, is the doctor falling in love with Book or Booker or whatever his name is? Because if he is, I don’t care. The whole point of the season is all life is in danger and THAT’S what we’re supposed to care about. That plotline makes him look so self absorbed I now dislike him.

There’s only one “Book”.

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Also only one Clue

The biggest mystery about Disco is why they let it go so long being so bad such that they take it to the gravel pit rather than rehabilitate it. TNG is famously shite prior to the 3rd season but, after then, it was Warp 9 for 5 seasons and a bunch of movies.

Disco stumbled out of the gate, most notably because it was stomping all over TOS. Instead of treading carefully, they just tightened their blindfolds and started stomping around even harder. Then they had the perfect opportunity for a reset when they fast-forwarded to the 32nd century but, instead, face-planted out of the gate…

So many good ingredients to work with, and they came up with cold beans on toast.

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