The Inevitable What About The Inevitable You-Know-Who Thread Thread

This was always the silent problem with rape exceptions. Florida just said the silent part out loud.

DeSantis signed the 6-week ban in the dark of night without fanfare, and while parts of his state were underwater. In doing so, he signed away any chance he ever had of being President.

I agree, Limey is out of control.

This Trump-humping cock goblin got 7+ years in a Federal Pen.

So unfair. Now, anybody that crushes a cops skull could get convicted,
Shitheel goes to prison

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This seems badā€¦for Trump. So, good then.

Other reports claim that Smith is looking closely at the stories of (a) Trump having stolen a map with classified information on it and (2) showing it to people for shits ā€˜nā€™ giggles. Thatā€™s a breach of the Espionage Act, which is ā€œthrow away the keyā€ type stuff.

Clarance Thomas is a crook.

Posted at 3am. Someone seems to be worried about what will come out during the Fox News trial. Donā€™t forget that much of what was documented in court filings was redacted at Foxā€™ request; so the incredibly damning (and hilarious) stuff we have seen already is not even the worst of it.

Meanwhile, the start of the trial itself has been postponed until tomorrow. The consensus is that this is because Fox is desperately trying to reach a settlement. This makes sense given that Rupes is expected to be the first witness called, and his deposition is chock full oā€™ damaging admissions.

Twitter is twittering that Dominion wonā€™t settle. If true, it simply means that Fox isnā€™t prepared to meet the demands Dominion has of themā€¦for now. Obviously, a settlement can happen at any time up to the rendering of a verdict, soā€¦

Obviously I have no inside knowledge, but it makes sense to me that Dominion would want Fox to provide full, unequivocal, high profile and repeated admissions as to their sins here - to right the wrong as best they can - plus at least $1 billion in cash. I imagine that Fox is trying to get them to agree to a cash settlement without allocution.

So, IMHO, this all depends on whether Dominion truly wants its reputation repaired or if its venture capital owners are just trying to extract the largest possible cash settlement from a desperate Fox. There must be a point at which Dominion would take the cash in any case but, presumably, this has to be north of the $1.6 billion in damages they are seeking at trial, because thatā€™s what Dominion is claiming in actual damages and Fox would likely be slapped with punitive damages too.

Any money settlement without those fuckers stating, night after night after night, that the election was clean and they knowingly lied about Dominion, will be disappointing to me. That said, Iā€™m expecting disappointment.

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Agreed. The problem Fox have is that they have no good options. I am sure they are trying to get a settlement with no need to fess up to their malfeasance and probably an NDA binding Dominion. Dominion can sit back and insist on their allocution, because that is going to happen anyway - under oath - sans a settlement.

So all the pressure is - quote rightly - on Fox. They have this immediate crisis, but the $2.7 billion SmartMatic suit is basically a rinse and repeat of the Dominion suit. So if Fox settles with Dominion without having to confess, they will have to pay a premium over the $1.6 billion demand (IMHO). So that will multiply when it comes to the SmartMatic suit.

Meanwhile, the derivative suits against the board have started to come in. Murdochā€™s under-oath admission that he should have stopped the lying has likely damned them in such suits too.

So, as much as a settlement with Dominion will rob us of this one wreck, there are more trains coming down the track.

ETA: Donā€™t take my word for it (I promise I saw this after writing the above post):

Thereā€™s no reparation of reputation via broadcast on Fox News. No one watching would buy it. Their best way to repair is to air every single piece of Fox dirty laundry they can get their hands on during trial.

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Exactly. No matter what Fox says on air, everyone watching will go ā€œOhā€¦I get itā€¦wink, wink, nudge, nudge, say no moreā€.

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ā€œThoseā€ people wouldnā€™t be the target audience for any on-air confessions. They would, of course, stop watching Fox and switch to NewsMax or OAN (if they can get them) and/or post Tik Toks of themselves shooting up their TVsā€¦to own the Libs.

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No one watching Fox lives in Realityland. So on-air confessions would mean exactly squat.

Part of the reason Fox stuck with the Big Lie was because NewsMax was draining their ratings when they started to be honest about election fraud. Thatā€™s when Carlson and others were screaming to bring back the crazies as it was hurting the stock price. Which is also why Murdoch sat on his hands.

The truth didnā€™t change one mind in their audience, but it did get them to change the channel, and thatā€™s the problem that Fox has if Dominion is insisting on them broadcasting the truth going forward.

Yeah, itā€™s less about changing minds and more about being a deterrent to this behavior in the future, by Fox and others. Losing viewers is a bigger deterrent than monetary damages.

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You are correct. Just take CNN for example.

This was suspected, and now appears to be true. Thomasā€™ mother has been living rent free in the house that Harlan Crow bought from the Thomases and then renovated.

Essentially, Crow has been giving Thomas a bribe every day of every month of every year since he bought the property in 2014, and has the leverage over Thomas of evicting his mother from her home.

Trumpā€™s attempt to have the E. Jean Carroll trial postponed has just been denied by the judge in the case, who has has also denied repeated attempts by Trumpā€™s legal team to obtain the names and addresses of the jurors.

For those of us non lawyers, are such requests normal in civil trials?

If youā€™re Al Capone.