Orioles at Astros, 9/20/23

Lucy, Ethel, and Fred.

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The obvious answer is Larry, Curly, and Moe.

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Yankees beat Blue Jays

nevermind

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Seconfed

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Fredia, is that you?

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Just noticed some encouraging blown saves/save % stats

Rangers 32 (48%), Rays & Orioles 30 (59%/61%),…. Astros 19 (68%)

Makes me appreciate Presley….and a high scoring offense.

What is the W-L percentage in those games with a blown save?

That is a save %, oppo of blown save %.

Rangers are successful In only 48% of their save opportunities.

That is not what he asked you.

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Save % can be an incredibly useless stat. You can only get 1 save per game but in theory you can have as many blown saves as you have players on the roster, minus 1(the SP). If you are the away team and get a 1 run lead going into the 7th but a guy gives it up, that’s a blown save. Let’s say you regain the lead in the top of the 8th by 1 run but the next guy gives it up, blown save. Top 9 you get the lead again but your closer losses it, blown save. Let’s say you take the lead AGAIN in the 10th and this time it holds for a save.

You won the game, you a had save but you also had 3 blown saves for 25% save percentage. It both tells you what you think it’s telling you and also not what you think it’s telling you.

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You can also blow saves earlier in the game, iirc.

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Yes — any time a reliever comes in with a lead and fails to hold it.

Top of first “we” score three.
Bottom of first the starter loads the bases on 12 straight balls and gets lifted. Reliever gives up a home run then records 27 straight outs. Meanwhile, “we” score twice more and win 5-4.

Blown Save plus a Win.

Not exactly, the reliever has to enter the game in a “save situation,” meaning somebody else has to be in line for the W. In your scenario, the starter cannot get the win because he failed to pitch 5 innings so the reliever would not be in a “save situation” at any point, thus no blown save.

Oops. You are correct. And having the scorekeeper assign the win if the starter does not go 5 eliminates most of the outlandish scenarios. Save % is still a pretty useless stat, though.

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Yep, I know it can happen earlier. Poor Snuffy.

Couldn’t a blown save, win, & save also occur in the same game?

I was surprised that THREE teams were competing for the playoffs in spite of 30+ blown saves.

Not by the same pitcher.

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Blown saves and saves occur in the same game frequently, which more or less requires a win.

RMPL.

Blown saves is a pretty useless stat in my opinion.

I bet there are dozens of pitchers with blown saves who have never even sniffed the 9th inning.

How many blown saves are given to pitchers who would never have gotten the save even if they didn’t allow a baserunner much less a run?

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