Good takes from AC:
If the Rangers do that, they might as will hire Hinch too.
I have to believe that both Luhnow and Hinch have enough of a stain from this that no team would want the scrutiny that comes from hiring both at the same time.
I also have to believe that the Rangers would absolutely do that if given the opportunity.
Luhnow will go back into the business world and be just fine.
Hinch will manage again. It might be a while but I donāt think his career is over.
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Three different friends who do not know each other, but all happen to be Tigers fans have said hey canāt wait to hire Hinch in November. I think unless you are a self-righteous NY or LA fan, you just donāt think itās that big of a deal.
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This whole debacle has been driven by Yankee-loving media. No one else cared. Fiers has been telling his story for years. Everyone knew. Every team does this, and has been doing it since the 2nd inning of the first game ever played. No one cares. Except Yankee fans who cannot accept that the Astros have knocked them out of the postseason three of the last five years. So theyāve turned a traffic violation into the Manson Family.
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Fans are more forgiving than owners. I think it will take more time than the suspension. I expect him to potentially have to work as a bench coach before getting a manager position.
I could also see him going into the front office instead of a field position.
This is exactly what my friend in baseball said.
So the current mantra of NYY and LAD is:
āWe would be champions if they had not cheated.ā
Not sure Iāll survive this.
The Yankees were so psyched out by the Astrosā sign-stealing that their offense managed only three runs in four games in Houston.
WFW
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Of course this will go nowhere. First, itās the Yankees. Secondly, no one is outraged. They left all their outrage in Houston. For the umpteenth timeā¦this is NOT about stealing signs, itās about embarrassing Jeff Luhnow.
I always thought heād be great in the Astros front office when he had enough managing. Oh, well.
The Effectively Wild podcast dedicated an entire show to the topic. I generally think of the hosts of that show as informed, smart, and reasonable. It would be a waste to re-hash the entire episode, but they identified the differentiating elements that have caused the spotlight to be on the Astros as the following:
- the Brandon Taubman situation, which caused the furor among the media
- Mike Fiers, ignoble or noble intentions aside, put a firsthand account by a player on record
Without the two items above, MLB would have happy to have this issue reside under the carpet because it is widespread and not limited to the Astros. Without item #1, the media would have probably let sleeping dogs lie. Add in the JL element mentioned above by JimR, HH, and others, and, well, the team is where it is.
I know Iām not adding much to the discourse here because this has all been discussed ad nauseum on this site and elsewhere, but I think itās also useful to provide some mostly non-biased context for how this all transpired that isnāt propagated by dipshit Yankee and Dodger fans or by those of us who closely follow the Astros and are invested in the team.
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Glad you mentioned this re: Effectively Wild. I have utterly nixed an otherwise religious listening habit since the Athletic story because, to paraphrase the Albert Finney character in the brilliant Millerās Crossing, I hate to see my friends run down, even by other friends.
I hear that, Devin. I have stopped reading most everything.
Beltran steps down from his new job with Mets.
Oops. Just posted this in the other thread.
Soā¦heās available then?