Inevitable You-Know-Who Thread

The House proved its case - many Republican Senators agreed. Romney agreed that it was egregious enough to vote to remove Trump.

You are inside the Cult 45, screaming at Romney for breaking with your Dear Leader. It’s so sad.

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There are no bigger snowflakes than those cult members.

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Every accusation a confession.

It is my observation that both sides were more focused on gaining or holding on to power than they were to revealing truth. I am more cynical than ever about politics and I am a pretty optimistic person.

An unbiased person would say: What Biden’s son (while his dad was in a position of influence) did was sketchy at best and likely crossed lines. What Trump did to try to bring it to light was clearly an abuse of power. Each party got in line behind their person and never questioned the behavior of their person or his son. The truth didn’t matter, only winning did.

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As I told a co-worker yesterday who said Biden’s son probably crossed a line, then why not take legal means to investigate it? Why not use FBI, CIA, etc. to investigate it? Why withhold aid from a country that Russia wants so they will investigate it?

I’m just tired of a section of Americans thinking that man is infallible. I’m tired of them blaming Democrats for things Republicans have put into place. It amazes me how anyone can blame Democrats for the current tax code. Totally biased along party lines no one can think logically anymore. If I was optimistic at any point, I’m not anymore.

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The problem with this equivalency is that Hunter Biden’s position on the board of Burisma had nothing to do with what Trump was trying to coerce the Ukrainians into doing. Also, BudGirl makes the good point that there are myriad legitimate domestic avenues to investigate Americans’ corrupt business practices in foreign countries (which of course Trump is trying to limit if not repeal).

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Hunter Biden received $50,000/month from Burisma. It is commonplace for companies - especially ones looking to project legitimacy - to place “names” on their board. Still, here, Hunter made $600,000 in a year most likely because he’s Joe’s son.

Meanwhile, the Kushners are both senior White House advisors. Full time, government jobs with salaries and - more notably - expenses paid by tax payers. Separately, they made $135 million from their private side jobs in 2019.

You can try and “both sides” the issue of corruption, but Hunter Biden is the mouse in the room while the Trump clan are a herd of elephants pulling a super-tanker full of dirty money.

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This is a mind bogglingly idiotic take.

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Ehh, what’s a few decimal places anyway?

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Guys, guys, guys.

Don’t worry. Rudy is eventually going to tell us all about the Biden corruption in his podcast.

Senate Republicans are already working on opening an investigation in “the Bidens” . Of course, any investigations of 2020 candidates has to be approved personally by Bill Barr. I wonder if he’ll let this one go ahead…

So if I get this right, Biden is corrupt but Trump is strenuously corrupt. If you’re gonna cross that line, might as well take a giant step.

Let me be clear, not equivocating the actions and agree that there are plenty of ways to investigate that if it is worth investigating. Equivocating the line up behind your team and only care about winning.

There are times I wonder if Nixon were to happen today, if he would be impeached (I know he resigned but that was because he saw it coming).

Your eloquence seems to be modeled after Trump’s twitter.

Really, you can’t see a difference?

I’ll just try to be simple for all those who get distracted by these stupid kid-corruption discussions and can’t keep their eye on the ball: did Joe Biden ever use his power as VP to kneecap his political opponents? If he did not, stop there and say “Oh, I get it now, it’s about abuse of power, not whose kids are free-riders.”

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I’m fairly confident we just learned the answer to that question. What Trump did was significantly worse than Nixon.

There is context. Trump abused his position as president to extort a foreign country to falsely investigate a political rival in order to benefit his reelection. Joe Biden didn’t do anything. Hunter Biden was a private individual who got a nice job because of who his daddy is.

Ironically, this is also Trump. Any Trump*. Male or female.

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Hey, genius. Joe Biden has bragged on camera about having the Ukrainian prosecutor who was sniffing around Burisma fired,which I think is worthy of further examination. Biden kills me be cause he talks as if everything he’s saying is new, when in fact he’s on multiple records voting for tor taking the opposite position, hence the repeated accusations of flip-flopping.

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This is the lie in the accusation. The prosecutor had opened a sham investigation into Burisma (and others) but had been paid off and was slow-walking it.

It was official US policy to remove this prosecutor. Not Biden’s solo quest. Official US foreign fucking policy. Oh, and official EU policy too. And official Australian foreign policy. And on and on. Removing the prosecutor increased the chances of an investigation into Burisma. Biden bragged about getting rid of the guy that the (honest) world wanted gone because it was a job well done.

Plus, Trump didn’t care about an investigation; he wanted an announcement and everything else was irrelevant to him.

These are all facts - testified to under oath - by Trump-appointed officials, including Trump super-donor and one third of the Three Amigos, Gordon Sondland.