COVID-19

That would place 11mm that are closer to my example of not needing much testing yet. Most east cost states are going to skew with a higher need just for the sake of more population density statewide.

That’s not how percentages work. You compared Texas’s testing rate of 0.7% to the national average of 1.2%. According to google, 80% of the US population lives in urban areas. According to this study, roughly 85% of Texas residents lived in urban areas in 2010. Therefore, using your explanation that higher population density should be positively correlated with testing rate, Texas is actually doing worse than everywhere else in the country, i.e. Texas has a 40% lower testing rate despite having roughly a 6% higher urban population than the national average.

Texas’s most densely packed area of Dallas is not going to be as dense a city as most east coast, West coast and rust belt states. According to Wiki, Dallas is #74…no other Texas city makes the top 100 densely populated cities.

Your urban population to urban population comparison is not nearly equal enough to use the percentages like you are.

Again, this makes no sense. So, you’re saying some population density calculation about residents per square mile influences testing rates? I can buy that living in an urban area increases access to testing, if testing were widely available. This loose relationship assumes that someone is more likely to drive or walk a few blocks to a health care facility than someone is likely to drive from a rural area to a city to get tested and that tests are likely more readily available in cities than in rural areas.

You realize that tests aren’t transmitted from one person to another based on population density, right?

Also, as I made very clear in my original post, most Texas citizens live in big fucking cities. The reason why the Texas testing rate is 40% lower than the national average isn’t because Texans are spread out. In fact, they are more concentrated in cities than the national average.

Strike Force! ™ commander Dan Patrick has doubled down on his commitment to sacrifice lives for profit:

It’s been said before, but amazing to think about the right wing’s fake panic about “death panels” (aka palliative care) in the ACA. Now they just want people to die in the name of the economy.

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In a shocking move, Alabama’s governor bucked the southern trend and is holding at stay at home (unless you really need to go somewhere) until 4/30.

Cited lack of testing as the reason.

Alabama folks used to cross the Georgia line to play the lottery. Now with Georgia opening up and Bama staying closed, looks like folks will be crossing the line to play the new Covid-19 Sniffle and Win Lottery.

And herein lies the fundamental problem of not having a nationwide strategy.

Georgia still has a growing epidemic that will grow exponentially worse when they re-open non-essential businesses. People from Alabama will go there, catch the virus and bring it back. Alabama currently is doing well in holding its outbreak down - it has roughly half the cases per million of population that Georgia has - but that will likely change when they start coming down with the “Georgia virus”, so it will look like the mitigation efforts didn’t work.

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“Today I rise in opposition to spending $500 billion more." Sen. Rand Paul

So…he’s feeling better, then.

And suddenly the Randian oil producers are interested some of that good ol’ socialist assistance. Seems that the free market can be a harsh mistress.

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Everyone wants a government handout.

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I see the U.S. has blown by the 45K deceased milestone. I cannot see how the U. of Washington model predicting about 60K through May can hold up. Their simplistic, sine wave will show distortions soon. In other words, I think the back side of the curve past the peak will be shallower than the front side and therefore more area underneath, and more deaths. It looks that way in other countries that have passed their peaks.

Now that the collective governors of the CSA and wannabees have let the virus loose again I can see 100K dead in this first wave.

Hopefully, I’m full of shit.+

We’ll be through 60,000 deaths by the weekend. And 1 million cases.

While New York is finally seeing its cases - and death toll - drop consistently, the US posted its highest single day death toll yesterday.

New York got hit hardest and fastest partly because of inherent issues such as population density, but also because Mayor DeBlasio and Gov. Cuomo were slow to close things down. NYC, for example, didn’t shut down until March 22 whereas Mayor Turner shut down the HLSR mid-run on March 11 and bars/restaurants on March 16.

What happened to New York is coming to the rest of us if we don’t adhere to social distancing; we’re going to see mini-New Yorks pop up all over the country because of the deadly re-opening policies of the likes of Govs Abbot and Kemp.

True, but it never hurts to point out the hypocrisy. It’s almost like Rand and the libertarian philosophy is just an ideological smokescreen for kleptocracy.

Like communism, libertarianism is just a red herring.

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Communism is used to the same effect in China. Of course, there are true believers of both philosophies. I.e. useful idiots that legitimize the ruling class.

I don’t think it is fair to compare the US to only Spain. If you combine the populations of Spain, Italy, Germany, United Kingdom and France, you total around 324 million people with nearly 92,000 deaths combined. The United States has a population of around 328 million people. So far we have recorded roughly 46,000 deaths. We seem to be doing a good job so far of limiting deaths compared to the impact the virus has had on other countries. Let’s hope we can all get past this soon.

Last time I saw stats on COVID deaths per 100,000, the USA wasn’t in any position to brag.

I do not know about y’all, but nothing our lunatic Governor or the more lunatic, evil Trump say will apply to me. I am going to stay home and away from people until Fauci or others like him say it is safe. I worry about my daughter when things reopen prematurely. She is cooped up by herself with toddlers 3 and 2, and she has every reason to be quite insane by now. I am afraid being stir crazy and cooped up with kids to young to understand will cause her to go back into the community too soon. She is juvenile diabetic and very much at risk. I am confident Mark will be as cautious and conservative about resuming community life as I will be. I hope so anyway.

You’re right that comparing to Spain is not really fair. If you add up all the cases in Spain, Italy, France, Germany and the UK - nos 2 -6 on the list behind the US at #1 - you get almost exactly the same number of cases as the US. Spain and Italy have more “mature” outbreaks than we do, our death toll is still climbing - yesterday was our worst day ever - while those other countries are flattening their curves much better than we are.

If you look at this graphic of the trend, ours looks way worse than all the countries you mentioned.

Here’s that same trend study, but this time for deaths. Again, the other worst-hit countries have flattened their curves far more than we have.