I wonder if Espada’s family emergency thing has delayed his dismissal? Also I hope everyone in Espada’s family is okay and or getting help.
4 Likes
Whether I am or I’m not, I have a hard time convincing myself that the Astros have not been successful under Crane’s ownership.
2 Likes
Nothing indicates a change more than getting buttfucked by the dregs of MLB.
1 Like
How long was it that Click was GM?
I am only comforted by the fact that most people do not know what the word “literally” means.
3 Likes
2020-2022. Which is a little longer than most in Astros history. They went through five GMs from 1985-1995
Whenever Crane’s tenure comes to an end, even if it’s a late-Drayton shitfest for another fifteen years, he will have been a successful owner (and by far the best in franchise history) based on 2015-2022 alone. No question about it. It is also true that since 2022 the organization has been a mess, and the new GM won’t be inheriting the successes of the good years (like Click did, and to a lesser extent Brown). The GM will be inheriting the mess.
2 Likes
The GM will be inheriting an aging, injured roster (the price you pay for sustained success) and an idiot manager. Neither will be easy to overcome, but this problem is not unique to the 2027 Houston Astros.
1 Like
I don’t see any way the idiot manager is here next season
1 Like
If Espada is back next season I will eat a fez.
1 Like
It was all Brown’s fault!
Save Joe Espada!
And it’s not like no other team has gone through GMs at a pace. Since 2000 the Dodgers have had seven. The Red Sox have gone through nine. The Phillies six. The Mariners six. The Cubs six. The Blue Jays five. You see the point. Rarely does a GM last more than a handful of seasons.
Unless the Astros are once again the tip of the spear in player scouting and development (which drove so much of the Luhnow era), or unless Crane suddenly becomes willing to aggressively go into the luxury tax, I’m finding it hard to be too optimistic about the next few years without a rebuild.
2 Likes
6 or 7 in 26 years and 4 in 7 years are not quite the same thing
1 Like
I’m not particularly interested in parsing the difference, just pointing out that turnover at the GM position every few years is common in MLB. The Astros have had four since 2011 (the next one will be the fifth), with a bad run the last five, mainly due to the issue with Luhnow. This is not the worst in MLB, nor even in Astros history. But if the Astros’ success over that period doesn’t meet your expectation, I’m guessing little will.
Crane fired the guy who followed him and won the World Series. That’s the fundamental mistake in all of this.
6 Likes
You seem to think I’m shitting on Cranes whole tenure but I’m not. Just everything that has happened since 2022. Firing the GM that just helped you win the World Series, the Abreu and Montero deals fall 100% at his feet. Those deals hamstrung this team because he didn’t want to go over the CBT. It’s a straight line from firing Click to where we are now and if the next hire isn’t great, that line continues to point down for the next 3-5 years at a minimum
1 Like
Bob Nightengale (USA Today) says Espada was given the choice of leaving now or at the end of the year:
Manager Joe Espada was informed by a high-ranking Astros official that he will not receive a new contract after the season, and he was given the choice of staying with the team through the duration of the season or departing now. He has elected to stay with the Astros, who are 65-66, but still tied for first place in the AL West.
2 Likes
I don’t think you can carve out the Luhnow situation in all of this.
At any rate, I thought there’d be more rejoicing over Brown’s departure. I guess not.
Well, I guess there’s only one thing left to do…win the whole fucking thing.
2 Likes