Aviation

Boeing pleads guilty, gets a minimal (for them) fine, stock price goes up after the announcement. The real punishment will be if this interferes with them getting future government contracts.

https://apnews.com/article/boeing-guilty-plea-crashes-245a38dc6d3082f4ddff1f6f74f274f2

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The stock price move is all you need to know about how much this punishment hurts.

Until we start jailing executives, corporate malfeasance will never not be a thing.

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I won’t impact their government contracts. It’ll just be one more bureaucratic form they have to complete in the overall acquisition process. The Gov side of the shop over there has all the checks and balances that the commercial side negotiated away and did away with over the years.

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Hi Bob.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/07/science/boeing-starliner-nasa-astronauts-return/index.html

Boeing Starliner astronauts have now been in space more than 60 days with no end in sight

Butch Wilmore and Suni Williams — two veteran NASA astronauts piloting the first crewed test flight of Boeing’s Starliner spacecraft — have now been in space for 63 days, roughly seven weeks longer than initially expected.

There is still no clear return date in sight, and NASA is now making clear that the astronauts may not come home on Starliner at all.

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Did a door fall off?

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My great-grandfather was from Germany and emigrated to the US sometime in the early 1900s and he spent WWI on street corners in Philadelphia ranting about how great Germany was and how bad the Allies were for making war against them.
I had a couple of uncles on my mom’s side in WWII. I never met them but one of them fought in Africa and up through Italy and after the war in Europe was over he volunteered to go to the Pacific and fought there. From what my mom said, he was a completely different person when he came back (obviously they all were but he more so), disappeared a few months after he mustered out and randomly showed up at their father’s funeral in 1959, told everyone there he was Jesus Christ and disappeared again, never to be seen or heard from again until someone found out much later that he died in New Orleans in 1962. An obviously serious case of PTSD but unfortunately for those men and women of that era, PTSD wasn’t a thing. I might be wrong, but I believe they called it ‘shell shock’ in those days and figured it would go away.

ETA: sorry, just noticed I answered a 2 year old post. Guess I haven’t been in this thread for awhile!

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Life moves pretty fast…

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(Ferris Bueler’s Day Off!!!)

As someone who had to learn to recover a Cessna (the example used in the video) from a stall-induced spin, I can confirm that it’s fucking terrifying. However, a proper response will recover the spin within a matter of a couple of hundred feet.

The trick is that the proper response - a bootfull of rudder - is counter-intuitive, while the natural response - to try to correct the wing-drop with the ailerons - will only make the ensuing spin worse.

Trigger Warning: A heavy dose of unvarnished Dutch pragmatism in this video.

Losing elevator authority in a tail spin makes it pretty much unrecoverable, hence this deadly flat-spin.
So damn tragic.

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I have some issues with this video.
He surprisingly used some improper terminology, he said several times it’s too early to speculate (so why make this video?) and there’s some sloppy arm-chair quarterbacking. Plus, he forgot to mention the EET/Extended Envelope Training that we’ve had to do the past 3 years in the simulator that takes the aircraft waaaayyyyyyyy into full stalls.
He did get the PARE correct, though.

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Someone should be facing criminal charges for this.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/24/science/nasa-boeing-starliner-astronauts.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=c-cb

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What a mess.

Boeing changed CEOs. I hope that spurs the right kind of changes.

That company needs an enema.

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Boeing’s HQ is still in Chicago(?) I assume

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No. They moved to Arlington, VA, in order to be closer to the trough.

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As of 2023, the Boeing Company’s corporate headquarters is located in the Crystal City neighborhood of Arlington County, Virginia . The company is organized into three primary divisions: Boeing Commercial Airplanes (BCA), Boeing Defense, Space & Security (BDS) and Boeing Global Services (BGS).

When we went to DC a few years ago we took a family friend’s recent college grad out for a burger in Crystal City (he lived near there).

We were the only ones in the place without a military issued high fade.

(Mine wasn’t military issued).

I used to work just down the way in Pentagon City and let’s just say that I did not have a military issued high fade.

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Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.

Ah, Crystal City. The locals used to refer to it as Crystal Shitty. Haven’t been there in years, so I can’t say whether anything’s changed enough to no longer justify the moniker.

Is that anywhere near Twitty City?