They could still reset in 26 if they sign Bregman. Montero and Abreu come off the books, Valdez is the only major piece set to be a FA. Meaning if they sign Bregman to the reported deal, they would go into the offseason something like 20M under the tax for 26
No one is begrudging him for trying to maximize his salary. We’re saying he’s not worth to the Astros what he’s asking. So don’t begrudge the Astros if they say “good luck” and go in a different direction. Two sides can disagree on the value of transaction, that doesn’t mean one of them is doing anything wrong.
Bregman will be in his mid-late 30s through this deal and is in no way, shape or form an MVP contender. That’s not limited by his age or his injury risk, but by his talent. You think he’s a superstar. He thinks he’s a superstar. I don’t. The Astros don’t. Apparently, no other team does, so your beef with the Astros appears more based on your own personal feelings rather than actual level of production to be expected.
I have been very open about my fandom toward Bregman but I have also been very clear that I do not think he is a superstar.
Look above where I wrote “it would not surprise me if he never made another all star team”
All I am saying is that based on the level of player the Astros have any chance to sign (No all star player in their 20s will agree to less than 7+ years and likely much longer) he is among the best options so saving money for those all stars is foolish.
And I don’t agree that I have any beef with the Astros. I am just pointing out my opinions and they differe from the Astros’ actions. No beef.
Put me down as someone who thinks $27 a year for 6 years is a great and generous offer. He is dumb to keep dicking around. I hope the Astros gave him a deadline to sign.
I just don’t understand why its so important for him to accept it immediately and why people are pissed at him for continuing to try and get a better offer.
Just because an offer is great and generous does not mean he should be required to take it or that he is dumb for not taking it.
I don’t know how many times I have heard “I don’t begrudge players for getting the most they can.”
Then get mad when a player doesn’t accept an offer they think is “great and generous” to keep looking.
Give him a deadline, now? All you would be doing is wanting to punish him for making you wait.
Its cutting off your own nose tovspite your face.
It was different weeks ago, and would be different if the money was being held up to possibly spend elsewhere but that ship has sailed. Its Breggy or nobody.
Yes, as a notoriously slow starter, he needs to be in a camp this Spring. He is forcing the Astros to prepare for the season ahead and not include him. He has become a contingency at this point.
How does waiting for an undetermined amount of time benefit the Astros? Are you simply suggesting that it doesn’t make any difference if he signs or not; but you hope he does because your an Alex fan.
You brought up someone like Michael Brantley as a comparison, suggesting signing someone like him was a waste of money or a foolish endeavor. If Bregman was as good as Brantley, I’d gladly pay him what he wants. But he’s not.
He didn’t have to accept immediately, but he’s had months to weigh this and other offers. Spring Training starts next week. The Astros can’t just sit around waiting on him any longer.
FTR I loved Brantley and thought he was a great Astro. It sucks that his body broke down.
My point is that the Astros are limited to guys looking for 2-4 years and less than $25M per year by their own policies and philosophy.
They are never going to sign a guy like Soto, or Tucker, or Corey Seager so it makes no sense to say “The Astros should not spend this year so they have all this available for next year when XXXX is available.”
Unless that player is a mid-level star or older and not a franchise player, and if thats the case its pretty underwhelming.
Reporting date is right around the corner and, yes, he needs to be in camp, preferably on day one.
But are they going to say “no” if he agrees to the offer in 2 weeks?
What if they assign a deadline and he comes to them 4 days later and says “ok”. Are they gonna say, “Sorry, you blew it”?
There is zero benefit or reason to give a deadline now, after going months without one when it could have been beneficial.
Unless they spend the money elsewhere, or commit to another player in his would be roster spot a deadline makes no sense because agreeing after any deadline would still be best for the team.
I don’t know but over the years it seems like ever player signing after ST has been well underway goes on and on about how they’ve been training and are in fine shape to hit the season running…but most if not all in recent memory have either gotten injured or performed quite poorly. Just last year, both Snell and Montgomery did not fair well. Trying to think of some hitters but none coming to mind off the rip.
I mean, that’s not what he said. He said they would be limited to Brantley types, a bit older and maybe with injury issues rather than someone in their prime. And he’s right, rightly or wrongly, if you refuse to give out long term deals your options are more limited than otherwise
There’s a wide, wide gulf between “superstar” and “serviceable”. He’s absolutely no superstar, but the offered contract doesn’t pay him like one, either.