The sci-fi TV thread

So amazing.

I just finished rewatching S1 before I start S2. I liked the show a lot on first watch but, like you, I enjoyed it even more as a 3-4 day binge. If someone had decided to throw an Emmy nomination Shantel VanSanten’s way it would’ve been well deserved. Also, I forgot how fucking badass that ocean launch sequence was.

Ron Moore just signed a huge deal with Disney, which I’m assuming means he’ll leave the showrunner role at FAM.

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Moore’s deal includes creating a “Magic Kingdom Universe”

Nobody wants this, Mouse.

Along with “Swiss Family Robinson”. Guess he’s paying his dues so he can get a crack at Star Wars at some point.

It still amuses me that Moore wrote my favorite TV finale ever (TNG) and maybe my least favorite (BSG).

I take it you didn’t watch GoT.

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I gave up a few seasons before the end, once it was clear the show was falling apart. I did later watch the finale out of curiosity. Yikes.

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Everyone wants to be Marvel, yet everyone who isn’t Marvel has face-planted hugely. The jury is still out on what Disney can do with Star Wars TV spin-offs, but every other movie franchise kick-off has been a mess.

Oh I’m sure the Snyder Cut will fix all of this

“And I killed Sparky too” is pretty great television.

The way Elizabeth Olsen and Paul Bettany have built up the upcoming cameo…

(WandaVision spoiler-ish)

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if it’s anyone but Magneto or Professor X then they’ve really screwed up their publicity.

My favorite is how the Universal monster movie franchise totally evaporated after the ridiculous Tom Cruise Mummy movie. They had 5 or so other movies mapped out, roles cast and everything, and then…nope

I think part of Marvel’s unique success is because they didn’t use an existing franchise as the tent pole. They went with Iron Man - well, technically, the Hulk - but it wasn’t clear at the time that “The Hulk” was the franchise kick-off, especially as we hadn’t yet been trained to wait with about-to-burst bladders for the mid/end-credit teasers.

But Iron Man was really when they laid it out for us, and it was something we hadn’t seen before. Because they went with a second-string superhero, they were able to establish a new tone for the whole universe; notably blowing up the secret identity trope with a line that was so iconic it was used to close that character’s arc some 22 movies later.

Had DC started with Wonder Woman, or even Aquaman, they may have had a better chance. They could then later feed in Supes and Bruce et al. I haven’t seen Aquaman, but Wonder Woman was a throughly entertaining flick. However, they lead with BvS and shit the bed so hard they were pretty much fucked from the start.

It’s also notable that Marvel has had only one true clunker (Thor 2, which they lampooned themselves in “Endgame”), while DC lead with one and has significantly more clunkers than hits. Marvel made franchise stars out of the Guardians, while DC have tried, and failed, to ride the one breakout character - Harley Quinn - ruining her in the process.

So, to The Mummy. WTF were they thinking? We’d already had one good Mummy movie followed by a bunch of ever-worsening sequels. So did they really think that we’d be up for five “Tom Cruise fights the same villain” episodes? Maybe as a Netflix show that we could knock out in one weekend, but not a decade-long 5 movie franchise.

And how old was Cruise going to be at the end? I know he has the power of Spacelord Xenu coursing through his veins, but he’s not going to be able to keep running flat-out forever (even though he’s really good at it). And if the Mummy keeps coming back, don’t you get to the point where you have to think that Cruise sucks at his job? Like Wade Wilson’s “Taken” nightmare, where he’s being chased by Liam Neeson: after three movies, you have to start to think that he’s just a bad parent.

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Spare yourself WW84. It’s one of the worst sequels of all time. It’s not Caddyshack 2 bad, but it’s awful.

I liked it, but it was nowhere close to being as good as Wonder Woman.

It was an unintelligible mess with no internal logic whatsoever

So you’re saying it wasn’t unwatchable.

Worse sequel: Robocop 2 or Caddyshack 2?

Predator 2 is highly underrated.

Speed 2

The Alamo 2.