My main thought from the last episode was that we finally got to see what the “pod alien” could do. Been waiting on that.
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I am only now aware that Ep 8 was the finale. Umm…ok.
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Wait…what?
Apparently S2 has not yet been green lit.
I am torn whether I want them to try again and maybe fix this shit, or that they should just kill it with fire.
Honestly, I’m leaning toward the latter because they have done the Disney thing of taking a legacy badass and turn it into a pathetic shadow of its former self, and created a ludicrously overpowered new character with no arc, no journey and none of their abilities being earned.
I was never, or would, expect perfection like the first 2 movies.
I enjoyed this. Loved the world-building and the introduction of other “aliens”
The Kid Boy Genius, whatever his name is, was perfectly cast, you can do nothing but hate him. So were Morrow and Kirsch.
I’m totally down with waiting to see what happens. How much will the kids grow up?
[also] I liked Covenant and Romulus. They were just regular fun Alien movies.
I am left indifferent.
So much in alien earth seems undigested, sloppy, and silly.
There is a 100% chance i will watch anything else they do, but as a completionist, not enthusiast.
I “like” and have rewatched all the movies, with the exception of romulus. Someone is going to MAKE ALIEN GREAT AGAIN. But not hawley. This is disappointing. the source material is so strong that even more great filmmakers will do something “interesting” with the ip.
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Well they simply (in a good way) imported the world of Alien/s to tweak our nostalgia glands but, otherwise, the show is essentially a bottle episode on the island. The disgusting little eyeball bastard™️ is interesting, but suddenly in the so-called finale it can re-animate a dead body? With what resources?
Other absolute lazy shit being:
- Wendy being able to speak Alienese for reasons;
- Wendy being able to communicate with the Labrador Alien with mouth clicks despite her being in a building and it being outside and miles away;
- Wendy being able to connect into every wifi everywhere all at once, while no one else - not even Boy’s Dad-Bot - having any such capability;
- Speaking of the Dad-Bot, Wendy being able to force-freeze him;
- Boy Cavalier being a genius, only because we are told he is a genius, despite everything he says or does suggesting the exact opposite;
- Every character doing the dumbest thing possible at any given moment (Promethe-itis);
- Joe. Just fucking Joe. What is the point of him? To annoy me, apparently;
- The Labrador Alien insta-killing everyone it comes across and then doing the opposite when plot-convenient; and
- No character having anything resembling an arc, just occasional wild departures from their established personality before returning to normal.
The visuals were well done, but pretty much everything else is a steaming mess. Any character who showed promise early on (especially Morrow) was completely neutered and subjugated to the all-powerful Wendy by the end. All for the want of an “off” switch.
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Only if Cameron comes back, which is never going to happen because he’ll be making Avatar movies until he’s 90.
Scott already took a stab at it, and shit the bed. And then tried to retcon that bed shitting but just shit the bed harder.
100% agree that ridley scott is done making good alien movies. Disagree that cameron is a possible solution (0% chance of that). The soul of ALIEN is the artistic vision of H.R. Giger, inspired by the cosmic horror writings of h.p. lovecraft. The first film is a masterpiece, as is the second. Hard to blame fincher for the mess that is the third, while the fourth is delightfully bizarre and fun (sorry, but ripley as final girl for the franchise is a dumb idea).
Fede Alvarez at least understands that the ip doesnt need ripley…but he forgot to make characters the audience can care about (in addition to a comical acceleration of the reproduction cycle and casting a deceased actor with ai in a project better off without him). Fede is a ok horror director, but he’s probably the weakest of all who have handled the franchise.
Ari aster could make a genius alien movie. Danny boyle could too…with his cell phone and random people from a random pub. Soderbergh might. Chrisopher nolan…that would be amazing. Cameron’s ex Kathryn Bigelow would be a great choice…she could and maybe would love to make a better alien movie than aliens.
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Neill Blomkamp?
Maybe. Chappie is zeff!!!
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District 9 was amazing. His Oats Studios stuff was as well.
Everything else? meh
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Mandalorian and Grogu trailer dropped a few days ago.
THIS.
In a way, Alien 3 is the most Alien, Alien movie after the original because it was closer to this principle than any other.
Cameron’s Aliens is almost a beat-for-beat remake of Alien, but with more people, more xenos, more action and less horror. Oh, and a girl for the cat. It starts when the company sends unsuspecting employees to get infected and ends with a 4th act where it’s Ripley on her own against an xeno.
If you watch Aliens with this in mind, you cannot help but see it. It’s why it’s such a great sequel because it gave us more of the same but in a different wrapper so - unlike too many sequels - it never felt like a cheap knock-off of the original.
Everyone else has missed the mark because they tried to have a new take on it, which is why they all sucked.
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The irony, to me, is that there was such an opportunity for the franchse right after Aliens. The early years of the comics had some amazing storylines picking up shortly after the events in the movie, which, quite frankly were better than just about anything in the sequels. The film franchise could’ve easily followed that world building, or at least used it as a guide/inspiration as to where to go next. Instead, we got mostly meh (imo).
ETA - regarding Cameron and Aliens, I remember seeing an interview years ago, probably back in high school about how he came to direct the movie. Essentially, the producers offered it to him but he was adamant about making more of action film than horror (“Ripley and soldiers”). The success of Terminator allowed him to do that. And I think that’s what makes Aliens so goddamn great. It retains elements of Alien but Cameron’s vision takes the movie in a vastly different direction from the original. Would’ve been fascinating to see where William Gibson, one of my favorite science fiction writers, might’ve taken Alien 3. From what I’ve seen or heard about his script, he wanted to lean heavily into what society looks like in this particular future, who’s in control and what kind of havoc the xenomorphs wreak on that power dynamic.
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Would have been fun if they left Fincher alone for A3
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…and Hicks and Newt.
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Yeah, I’ve heard the producers didn’t give him a lot of freedom to make the film. And the script he had to work with bears no resemblance (other than a background image in one scene) to what Gibson wrote.
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He’s Hudson, you’re Hicks
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Fincher quit before the end of the movie and sued to have his name removed from the credits.
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