Yeah there’s life out there—it just isn’t here, no matter what crackpots like Grusch say.
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I’m not as sure as you are about that. The aliens, not Grusch being a crackpot.
I’m sure it’s out there, and I’m sure we’ll never bump into it.
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I’m completely agnostic on this UFO matter, and Grusch as well, since I know little about him. My only knowledge of him was through a podcast featuring a NY Times writer who mentioned him numerous times. I never got the sense that she thought he was a crackpot. I am curious as to why you characterize him that way.
“I don’t see a problem with this,” said every soon-to-be-dead scientist at the start of every creature movie.
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So, basically science is now copying Kurt Russell films.
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I am inclined to say that this film withstood the aging of time well. It’s probably better said that it foretold the future well. It’s amazing how well artists envision the future.
That trailer is not for the Kurt Russell version but because I love Mary Elizabeth Winstead, I’m gonna have to watch that version now.
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Fucking internet.
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The only comment I’ll make is that apparently the SFX team had some awesome practical creature effects (ala the earlier one) and the producers scrapped them all and went straight CGI, which worked out about as well as you’d imagine.
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Are you and me going to have a problem?
If we’re lucky.
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Hey funboys, get a room
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When we were kids, it was “alright, let’s me and you fight”.
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Big National Treasure vibes:
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Everything’s hunky fuckin’ dorry until that sonovabitch makes a U-Turn in a few centuries…
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So I finally cracked open this Grusch whistleblower thing. Read the article on the Debrief by the journalists who originally had the naval aviator scoop from 2017 or so. Read an article on The Hill. Watched Grusch’s interview on NewsNation. He seems eminently credible to me. He’s careful and smart and obviously extremely informed. This is staggering news and it’s weird it isn’t more of a thing.
I have long been of the mindset that obviously there is and has been and will be lots of other life in the universe, but that we are surrounded by much too vast an ocean of space for it to ever concern us. What stands out to me from Grusch’s interview is his contemplation that the “non-human intelligences” in question could be extradimensionally “co-located” here. That’s intriguing as all get-out but I don’t understand—and would love to understand—how such an arrangement could result in actual artifacts (including “football field-sized” vessels) interacting with our particular coordinate space.
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I have the opposite read on him. He presents well, but when it comes down to it, he has absolutely nothing to support his claims beyond “I know a guy who says [x].” However well articulated they are, the claims strike me as absurd.
He’s asking us to believe:
- Aliens exist
- Currently
- With sufficient space- or dimension- faring abilities to defy the laws of physics as we understand them
- Who have located Earth
- Who have physically visited Earth
- Within the past several decades
- Who crashed despite their technology
- And said crash rendered them and their ship capturable by humans
- And that this happened within the United States or areas controlled by the United States
- And the humans who captured them are the United States government
- But this occurred in a way not detectable to others
- Despite at least one craft being the size of a football field
- And that the government has been working on this with thousands of people for decades
- And that none of this information has leaked before
Some of these things are more plausible than others, but when you stack them all together, it’s like the Drake equation on steroids–not just existence; but travel; and visits; and crashes; and undetectable crashes; and it’s been kept silent to date, etc. It adds up to such a level of implausibility that it deserves to be dismissed unless and until someone produces a little green man.
I’m always skeptical of claims about big secrets being kept by the government or any large organization. A good (and topical) example is the Manhattan Project, which was a well-kept secret by government standards, but for which there was all sorts of evidence for someone looking into it (e.g., other countries knew we were working on a bomb because the top American scientists in the field suddenly all stopped publishing for some reason; or other scientists knew because a bunch of nuclear physicists started changing their mailing addresses for science journals to the middle of nowhere in New Mexico; or the Soviets knew because the secrets actually were not kept and they were being directly informed by an inside man).
And obviously here, we can’t assume that all the people with knowledge of the ETs are that tight-lipped, because people blabbed to Grusch. I think anyone who’s been part of a sufficiently large organization or project knows there’s really no such thing as a secret–there’s just a lack of interest or reason to publicize the knowledge. It’s out there, it just hasn’t been made known to the people you want to keep the secret from (here, the public and the entire world). But in this case, with the most explosive secret in world history, it hasn’t come out before?
As for interdemensional co-location: I don’t understand it either, and neither does anyone else who’s heard the claim, nor (we can safely assume) does David Grusch.
I know how dismissive of him I sound, but we’re dealing with a situation where one of two things happened:
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A long string of highly implausible events has occurred, defying our understanding of logic, physics, probability, and human nature; or
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One guy is bullshitting.
I know where my money is.
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