Redlegs at Astros May 9, '25

1-0 Astros after three innings.
Hunter has given up one single. The Astros have five hits.

This will surprise everyone but there was an inning that featured two hits and a walk that resulted in no runs, and there wasn’t even a double play.

Hunter better throw a shutout.

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Also, hpu is absolutely awful. It’s bad for everybody, but it’s bad.

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It’s almost blatant.

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You have entered The Amorphous Zone

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1st 2 batters for the Stros singled…the 3rd batter was up with nobody on and 2 outs (out advancing and a pickoff). No walk that inning though.

I think Hunter Brown may be good at this pitching thing

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He was safe

There’s always drama with Hader.

That’s a winner! Hader gives up a double, but no more in the 9th.

3-0 Astros.

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This organization’s knack for churning out aces makes its deficiencies in other areas even more maddening.

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Every Astro starter had a hit. You don’t see that very often these days.

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100%. And, it’s not just aces. It’s pitching capabilities across the board. They have this steady stream of middle and back of the rotation guys that are unheralded in the minors or on other teams and they turn into solid contributors for a few years before they move on or get injured. Same with relievers. All surrounding gameplan management that has individuals pitching to their specific talents and against batter’s weaknesses.

Which makes their “let them play” mentality re: hitters all the more frustrating. It’s like they are gun-shy about hitting analytics ever since the scandal.

I think pitching is just more suited for a development system working.

I can’t explain it, but there are teams that churn out pitching consistently. In addition to Houston, Tampa Bay, and Cleveland come to mind.

On a side note, the pitchers always seem to fall off to some extent when they leave that organization.

I can’t think of any organization that has that same reputation for hitters.

Hitting development is just far more random. Pitching is comparatively easy, you can say “hey that pitch sucks, stop throwing it” and sometimes thats all it takes for a guy to become a guy. There is no hitting equivalent to that.

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See that breaking ball three feet off the plate? Stop swinging at it.

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Exactly.

“Just read the spin out of the pitcher’s hand. It worked for Ted.”

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I can’t think of any organization that has that same reputation for hitters.
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The example that jumps to mind for me, happens to be the Astros from a decade ago when they lead the major leagues and strikeouts one year and then lead in the least number of strikeouts for the next couple of years. It was clearly an organizational shift in batting approach. Maybe not tailored to individuals, but certainly to how the team swung the bat.

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I remember that, but I don’t remember what players were in the before/after groups. That has to play into it, right?

Exchanged Colby for Reddick.

Bregman came on board.

McCann.

I may have the year of the K transition wrong.

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