Inevitable You-Know-Who Thread

Fun Fact: the family of the Murdaugh’s maid got a 7-figure insurance payout for her death…and Murdaugh stole it all from them.

Murdaugh agreed under questioning today that they were living separately but in the same house.

White? Check. Male? Check. Rich? Check.
“The poor guy’s been through enough already hasn’t he? We should send him home, maybe give him a tax break or something to help him feel better”

Nothing is “required” other than the jury to say “guilty”. The prosecution isn’t required to prove a motive, or produce a murder weapon, or DNA evidence, or anything in particular. Those are just pieces that help make their case and remove doubt in the jury’s mind. I’m just pointing out what my wife and her panel of murder porn friends who text constantly about this say would otherwise give them doubt.

Speaking of degenerate scumbags with legal troubles…

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You following this live like a middle-aged woman?

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I am today. I also have two cats.

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Something is required - proof beyond a reasonable doubt of each and every element of the offense as set forth in the indictment. The jury can say guilty all they want but absence of proof beyond a reasonable doubt of any element of the offense will result in the defendant being acquitted by an appeals court. You can have a nullification acquittal; you can’t have a nullification conviction.

Right. I mean in terms of specific pieces of evidence. My understanding is the prosecution is required to establish three things: that the act was committed by the accused, that the accused was of sound mind or otherwise understood their actions, and the causality of the act to the result. The burden of proof is beyond a reasonable doubt. Evidence establishes that proof, but not one specific type of evidence or reasoning is specifically required, only that the totality of the evidence leaves the jury with no other reasonable conclusion.

Whatever job you have, that’s the one I want.

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Just working from home with the TV on.

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I have only been watching today, but it does seem to me that the new admission - that he was at the murder scene with the victims a couple of minutes before their deaths - is a response to the prosecution having proof of that fact. So he’s lied about everything his whole life, and lied about that incredibly important fact around the murders, but he’s telling the truth now.

That’s a hard sell to start with, but the details around the new timeline are getting picked apart by the prosecutor. Murdaugh’s recollection is razor sharp about everything that doesn’t matter, but when questioned about why he suddenly went down to the kennels (where the murders happened) and suddenly left, and what he did after he left his memory is incredibly fuzzy.

He is bobbing and weaving; admitting to what they can prove and only to what they can prove, offering nothing else.

For example: he claimed to have left the victims at the kennels, gone back to the house and taken a nap. But he didn’t know how long he’d napped. After he woke up, he said he left to go see his ailing parents, but his iPhone registered an average of 70 steps/minute for four minutes before he left the house.

Paraphrasing:

Q: “What were you doing?”
A: “Getting ready to leave.”

Q: “What exactly did that entail?”
A: “Just…getting ready.”

Q: “Were you running around the house? Doing jumping jacks?”
A: “No. Just…getting ready.”

Yeah, that’s pretty much it for me: lying about everything you can, til you get caught. That’s what a guilty person does

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Also, has anyone explained what he did with all the money he stole? 10 millions for opioids?

He said he was taking around 2,000mg/day. I have no idea of the street cost of Oxy, but even at that level it seems that you’re going to struggle to burn through 10 mil.

I guess if you’re also supporting a few dozen hookers’ habits…

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I don’t know if there’s been enough evidence to put him away, but that guy is guilty as fuck.

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Speaking of guilty as fuck…

The judge ruled that the speech and debate clause doesn’t apply. So Pence is fucked too.

Good thoughts in this article that I hadn’t thought about before:

This is like trying to play the burning bag of dogshit on the doorstep trick but instead, when trying to ignite the bag, faceplanting into the dogshit.

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