Limey/Ray, this isn’t the time.
Please, we must think of the victims and kick the can down the road.
This fucking country.
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3 confirmed dead. 5 more in hospital, some with life-threatening injuries.
Shooter still at large (as of 10:45pm).
Shooter killed himself. Thankfully, so far, no increase in the death toll.
Nikki Haley - who said she’d never run for president against Donald Trump - is running for president against Donald Trump.
A gun is a tool and is as good or bad as the person holding it.
Like a duffel bag full of cocaine.
Kind of. If you ban guns, it’s kind of like banning cocaine. The crack heads are always going to find a way to get cocaine.
What is the #1, peer-reviewed determinant of gun violence? Easy access to guns. Not a history of violence. Not drug abuse. Not criminality. Not mental illness. Easy access to guns.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0091743519300143?via%3Dihub
And, just for fun, here’s a nice peer-reviewed abstract on the mental illness red herring from the APA:
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You have to understand what peer review means to care about peer review.
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It takes someone with a mental illness or high on drugs to want to perform a mass shooting. A lot of times it takes a gun to stop the idiot who is doing the mass shooting. I have no problem with someone walking into a gun store and easily acquiring a gun legally through background checks. Even if we ban all guns, there will always be ways for idiots to acquire a gun illegally. The same idiot will still be able to acquire cocaine illegally.
The truly stupid thing about the “it’s not guns it’s mental illness” deflection, is that they do fuck-all about mental illness too.
Let’s see an example of this.
The Swiss really have the model to emulate. They have extremely high gun ownership rates, virtually no restrictions on the type of firearm one can own, and a microscopic gun crime rate.
The key is they regulate the hell out of ammunition. One can have physical possession of almost any firearm, but only licensed shooting ranges and storage facilities can physically possess ammunition. Someone, regardless of current mental state, cannot just pick up a gun and kill somebody.
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It’s the Chris Rock bullet control plan.
ETA: I mean, seriously, why not tax the shit out of guns and ammunition on the basis of covering the costs incurred by everyone to protect against and clean up after mass shootings?
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Yes, I’m sure you understand it all and everything else thoroughly.
Switzerland is a little different from the United States. In just a few ways.
True, but the point is still valid. There have been mass shootings in most countries and, in almost all cases other than here, those countries reacted by restricting access to guns and the mass shootings weren’t repeated.
There have been 67 mass shootings in the US this year, and we’re only 45 days in.
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This Michigan State Rep. is not mincing words.
No doubt different in many ways, but ammunition should be easier, and more transparent than firearms to regulate. There are only so many manufacturers and they already sell only to licensed dealers. If dealers were only allowed to provide the ammunition physically to licensed ranges and storage facilities, then a big part of the problem may be solved. Home re-loaders would stay busy for awhile, but they’re a subset of gun owners and the brass will only last so long.
The only real regulation is that the firearm and the ammunition never meet anywhere else but on the range. Once there, only normal safety regulations and, importantly, qualification on any specific weapon, are really necessary. Fire off multiple machine guns Rambo style if that’s what floats your boat, it’s your money.
It seems to my non-legal mind that if the “militia” in the Second Amendment is taken as the population at large, then regulating ammunition is a logical means to assure that militia is “well regulated”.
You’re taking a pretty big dump on hunters that don’t live near distribution centers.
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