Inevitable You-Know-Who Thread

Alec Baldwin is going to jail for accidentally killing one person while Kyle Rittenhouse was set free for deliberately killing two people.

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America!

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Kind of a different situation there.

Yeah, Baldwin unknowingly fired a gun he thought was safe as part of a character portrayal. Rittenhouse went hunting humans with an assault rifle. They really aren’t analogous at all.

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Trump’s latest defense of the stolen documents is that he stole hundreds of empty document folders - that had the confidential markings on them - because he thought they looked cool.

Also, during his deposition in the E. Jean Carroll lawsuit - who he has repeatedly said he couldn’t have raped because she’s not his type - Trump was shown a photograph from the 1990s of a woman. Trump thought is was a photo of his ex-wife, but it was a photo of [drumroll please] E. fucking Jean Carroll.

How has this guy not talked himself into jail before now?

Involuntary Manslaughter Law | Justia

There is the definition of Involuntary Manslaughter. I would say that this fits what Baldwin did to a T. He should not have been pointing the gun and certainly not pulling the trigger when it was pointed at someone.

Rittenhouse was approached by 3 different people violently and aggressively. When someone approaches you with a gun or tries to hurt you and you defend yourself, that is self-defense. People should not have been violently burning businesses or trying to hurt others that day. What would you do if someone was trying to burn your family’s house or business down? Would you back off and let them do it? We wouldn’t be talking about Rittenhouse at all if thugs had not flooded the streets and tried to burn the town down.

Completely different situations.

Going across state lines to insert yourself into the situation makes the self-defense argument a little less compelling.

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Rittenhouse took an assault rifle across state lines and into a crowd with the express purpose of finding people to kill. So yeah, completely different.

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This is taking “stand your ground” to its inevitable, absurd extreme. You can pick a fight with someone and, if you’re losing, shoot them in “self-defense” (see Zimmerman, George).

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Since you quoted someone asking the question, “What would you do if someone was trying to burn your family’s house or business down? Would you back off and let them do it?” My sincere answer is Yes. I would call 911 and ask for the fire department. Shooting someone is not going to put a fire out.

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The bigger issue is that neither of those situations applied to Rittenhouse, no matter what alternate reality the wingnuts try to conjure up.

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Let me ask you this. Did he kill anyone who didn’t try to kill or hurt him?

Bingo. Rittenhouse traveled a fair distance hoping to find someone trying to burn down someone else’s house so that he could shoot them. When that didn’t happen, he went looking for more trouble, found it, couldn’t handle it and shot 3 people.

21 miles

Rittenhouse was acquitted on account of an incompetent prosecutor. There is no real likelihood that Baldwin will serve time. There is serious doubt that he will be convicted.

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Walking into an emerging riot, armed, with no official authorization, training or plan is beyond reckless.

If you’re driving while blackout drunk, drive through the path of an illegal street race, hit one of the racing cars and kill its driver… you’re still guilty of DUI and vehicular homicide even though the other driver was also breaking the law.

After months of investigations, interviews and computer forensic analysis SCOTUS has given up trying to find “not Sam Alito” as the leaker of the Dobbs decision.

I guess we’ll just never know.

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Yes.

Now let me ask you this. Was he anywhere near his own home when he killed those people?

Interesting, when someone tries to bash your head with a skateboard so they can take your gun and shoot you or point a gun at your head, they must be just playing around.

21 miles from his mother’s home and his dad lives in Kenosha. So yes, fairly close.

If he hadn’t been out searching for people to murder they wouldn’t have had to defend themselves

So no, nowhere near his home and not his business. So your first excuse is pure unadulterated made up bullshit.