Just watched the new Predator movie “Prey” and I gotta say, it might be the best in the series.
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I dunno. Having Comanches in a forest killed it for me. Maybe I’m wrong, but I watched about 10 minutes then wandered off to play the guitar
Considering the care they took to recreate Comanche life and the fact that one of the producers is Comanche, not to mention forests being very much in Comanche territory, I think you missed out. Did you watch it in Comanche?
Thirteen Lives on Prime is very well done. Ron Howard is a genius at real-life near disaster movies. The underwater cave scenes are stressful and incredible.
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It was well done, but I had recently watched the documentary which was even better.
But count me in for any Ron Howard movie with 13 in the title.
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It was just tough for me to have the Comanche not on the plains. That was not the plains.
In the 18th and 19th centuries, Comanche lived in most of present-day northwestern Texas and adjacent areas in eastern New Mexico, southeastern Colorado, southwestern Kansas, western Oklahoma, and northern Chihuahua . I grew up in Comanche territory. That was not Comanche territory.
The reins of the Comanche remain mainly on the plains.
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Where did you see that?
The forest was represented as some distance from their homes which were on the plains and they made it clear that going there wasn’t common and dangerous but different goats for different boats I guess. It still resurrected the series and provided new life with a strong Ripley-esque lead and great action sequences.
NatGeo / Disney+ called “The Rescue”
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I was much more excited about the movie because it involved the Comanche than I was about the return of the Predator. Like I said, I grew up in their range, about 40 miles from where Cynthia Ann Parker was re-taken, and my high school yearbook was the Yamparika. The guy who ran the local lumberyard was a grandson of Quanah Parker. When she wasn’t fishing, my mother would spend most Sunday afternoons crawling through somebody’s barbed wire fence to look for Wichita and Comanche campgrounds. Their presence was very real to me. I was willing to spot the filmmakers the anachronism of the female lead (even though the Comanche were the most patrilineal society ever) but by the middle of the 1700s the Comanche had migrated away from their Shoshone cousins in the Great Basin and driven the Apache off the southern Great Plains. They were already a horse culture, and the greatest nomadic cavalry since the Mongols. This is how a movie about the Comanche should look: https://tripsintohistory.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Comanche_Osage_fightGeorgeCatlin.jpg The closest woods to the Comanche would have been hundreds of miles away.
The movie took place 30 to 50 years before the migration you mention and the patriarchal aspect of the society was literally a core element of the story and the main character’s motivation but I guess if you turned off a movie about an invisible intergalactic big game hunter because there was a scene with trees then I don’t know what else to tell you.
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Yep. Trees did it for me, and I’m not claiming it was the right reaction. I never saw a tree (or a lake for that matter) until I was 21. Kris liked it.
I was probably ok with the pre-migration, except that her axe-head was metal, and then there was that whole business with the spring trap. Trappers wouldn’t get into the Great Basin until after the Comanche were gone if they ever did, and they were never part of the Southern plains, unless you count the New Mexico Rockies after 1800. That Great Plains Comanche migration was complete by the middle of the 18th century, and the Comanche were the first Native American group to convert to a horse culture.
I’m sure the movie is fine, and the Disney princess plot is fine, and that I was just being cranky, but I really was disappointed that it didn’t take care of details. You can tote it up to crankiness. And I really didn’t dislike it exactly, it just bored me when it could have been really exciting.
Sound like you demand the fine historical detail provided in Pride and Predator.
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I’d at least like Pride and the Predator to be set in the English countryside.
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I am watching this discussion with amazement.
I was looking forward to watching the discussion but the trees just pulled me out of it
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It’s probably the first discussion ever on OWA where somebody exhibited their peculiarities.
An OWA maxim: If it CAN be argued about, it WILL be argued about.
It’s one of the things that make it interesting.