I think it’s wrong that you are glad someone like Johnson has the virus. We shouldn’t be glad that anyone has it. I’d say that there are plenty of examples out there of people who have had the virus, which should make people take it seriously.
Nobody is glad someone has the virus, and there are way the fuck too many people who are not taking this seriously at all despite the overwhelming amount of information that says you need to.
The problem is, obviously, covid illness doesn’t happen in isolation. When Cletus decided to leave East Asslick to go to PC Beach to exercise his god given right to spring break, he gets covid and dies. Fine, no one cares about an idiot like that. But the problem is in the mean time he is sure to have infected who knows how many normal people who will then in their duties as healthcare professionals and supermarket workers and parole officers in turn infect countless others.
It would be much more manageable if there were a massive test and trace effort, but that is obviously well beyond the means of the greatest country in the world.
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I looked through the University of Washington’s projections model yesterday link
- As of yesterday, the US had approximately 82,000 deaths out of a population of roughly 328mm (0.03% rate)
- California, with a population of 39.5mm which is roughly 12% of the US, had 1,783 deaths which represents 2.2% of all US deaths but less than a tenth of a percent of the state’s population.
- Texas, with a population of 29mm which is roughly 9% of the US, had 2,025 deaths which represents 2.5% of all US deaths but only 0.01% of the Texas population.
- New York, with a population of 19.5mm which is roughly 6% of the US, had 15,618 deaths which is 19% (!) of all US deaths and 0.08% of the NY population.
Clearly, there are a myriad of variables that affect transmission and mortality rate including, but not limited to, local government policy, population migration, population demographics, climate, and population density, but this data seems to indicate that there is still a grim period ahead and that now is certainly not the time to ease up on restrictions.
Point to where I ever said that, and I’ll apologize. It’s the second time in as many posts where you have accused me of celebrating someone being sick; a third time will get you told to go fuck yourself.
Such as…?
There’s no way to know, but I suspect strongly that the anomalies are purely down to the variable testing rates, which is still nowhere near sufficient even in the best cases. CA, for example, is little better than TX at 3300/million of population (against TX’s 3000/mm). NY state, by contrast, is at 16500/mm - five times the rate of CA or TX.
As Bench notes above, there’s no way to know the true count - and there never will be. But the numbers we see right now are terrible and terrifying, and they are likely just a sub-set of the true toll.
Any model that ends in July with the cases at virtually zero has to be either assuming that social distancing measures will go on until a vaccine, or that most everyone has been exposed prior til July. Maybe I missing something, but that’s how it seems to me.
Please excuse the language. But, this:
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Today’s butcher’s bill* now through 1500 and climbing. We’re likely to top 400,000 cases by the end of the day too.
- If you’re looking for some isolation entertainment that includes a global pandemic; Presidential indifference to the death toll; government ineptitude; corporate greed; an uninformed public and an at-risk group unwilling to hear the warnings in favor of maintaining their lifestyle…then check out the excellent “And the Band Played On”. It’s free to watch on YouTube (link to full movie).
Did they say which July?
There you go. You think we need someone like Johnson to have the virus. We don’t “need” anyone to have the virus.
As far as celebrities or people of fame, Joe Diffie passed away from it. Tom Hanks had it. Rand Paul has had it. Several notable NBA players have had it. Prince Charles has had it. 138,863 in New York have had it. 80,759 people world wide have passed away from it. If that along with communities and businesses being shut down isn’t enough, I’m not sure what is.
I do think people are starting to take it more seriously, at least in my area. I have seen a lot of people wearing masks. Traffic has really slowed down. Lets just hope we see results and things start trending in the right direction.
So your answer’s no then; you cannot point to where I expressed gladness at Johnson’s (or anyone else’s) plight.
None of those are ever-present media personalities. They were all reported as being infected, and then there was virtually nothing by way of coverage. Do you even know how any of these people are doing? None of these come close to an “oh shit” moment like having your most senior elected politician wheeled into the ICU.
What’s happening in NYC and the rest of the world is getting drowned out by the happy talk from the White House about how anyone can get tested, there aren’t shortages of equipment, hydroxychloroquine works and a vaccine is right around the corner. None of this is true, but it’s on blast, every day, for two hours, on every national broadcast network - so it reaches everyone, even those who don’t watch the news.
If you’re sitting in middle America somewhere, you’re going to be hard-pressed (pun intended) to believe the “fake news” media when you have been told for the last 3+ years that it lies to you.
This trending is good. The reality is, though, that it’s happening despite the government, not because of it. Every day we’re not on a nationwide lockdown, is a day full of needless infections that will lead to needless deaths.
This makes me raging mad. I got nothing against Christianity but this is just stupidity.
Last week my mother-in-law sent a text around the family, apparently quoting Isiah 26:11, which reads “Our city is strong! We are surrounded by the walls of God’s salvation!”
No, that is not my answer. I just take it that you are glad/wanted someone in a leadership role to have the virus to prove a point to the world. We don’t need anyone to have the virus or potentially pass away to prove a point.
How do you know that hydroxychloroquine does not work?
Well it is my understanding that Hanks and Paul are both well. I understand that most of the NBA players are now well. Prince Charles is reportedly feeling better. Joe Diffie of course, passed away unfortunately.
I know in my home town anyone can get tested. In fact, there is a drive through testing site that just opened where anyone can go get tested.
Despite the government or not, I hope things keep trending in the right direction.
Go fuck yourself.
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The model’s are more useful for estimating (conservatively) maximum capacity in the peak, less useful for predicting the tails. The people making them and using them know they aren’t perfect, but you need a rough number of some kind to allocate resources.
Even if we got to zero infections, places like India and in the southern hemisphere are just starting. It took a bunch of vaccines and year to get rid of H1N1 and I imagine we’ll need a scheme for managing the interim.
Right back at you.
We will be living with this until the entire world is immune or vaccinated.
Yeah - that whole Love your neighbor thing Jesus didn’t really mean that. That I prefer mercy not sacrifice thing, God didn’t mean that either. The churches who are still meeting are the outliers. Most are not meeting anymore. Unfortunately you hear more about the ones that are so folks believe a lot of churches are meeting.
Here is a scary number: Chamber County Alabama - Population @ 34K - 101 positive cases - 106 test given. 7 deaths. It is a poor, rural, farming area. 38th in population in the state has the 6th most cases and only 5 negative cases so far.
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Unless a medical doctor prescribes it for me, I’m not taking it. Just because someone says something does not make it sound advice.
Just because the President says to take hydroxychloroquine does not make it a good decision. That’s like thinking everything you read on the internet is true or the television news is only false.
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