Quality.
If he can put the injuries in the rearview(big if), paying 17M per year for a good starter age 28-33, is not a bad price to pay. If he can stay healthy this is a great deal. If he doesn’t stay healthy it’s not a deal that will kill you either
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According to Jon Heyman, the Astros have offered Correa 6 years, $120 million. Correa didn’t bite.
Those are the same terms that Xander Bogaerts signed for just before the 2019 season, and on its face, that seems like a decent comparison. I suspect it’ll take at least 8 years to extend Carlos.
If that is the true number they offered, and I honestly don’t think it is, Correa will walk in the offseason. If you compare Correa now to Bogaerts before 2019, Correa has 11 extra WAR an OPS+ 20 points higher and probably has a higher ceiling. Of course the injuries are a concern but even playing less games he has a higher war. The Astros will have to pony up much more than 20/yr over 6 years to get this done.
Agreed. Correa needs to prove he can stay healthy and produce at an MVP level to get the contract he wants. That said, I have a very hard time envisioning Jim Crane allowing George Springer and Carlos Correa to leave in back-to-back offseasons, unless the plan us to sign one of the other elite position players available after the season instead (Story, Lindor, Seager, Baez, Bryant, Rizzo, Freeman, possibly Arenado if he opts out).
Those 4 words are notorious. Grains of salt, etc. etc.
In fairness, he was first on the McCullers news so he might have real info on Correa.
I am struggling to understand how that offer is insulting.
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Was he? The Heyman account that said 4/40 was a fake. I thought Berman broke it.
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When Correa was being scouted, his body build was compared to Troy Tulowitzki, which was in retrospect an apt assessment. Healthy players command dollars
Heyman was first to report that the sides were close yesterday, but you’re right that Berman was first on the actual deal. Of course Heyman does suck in general.
There will always be a team that will pay. Hell, Tulo got ~16/yr extension in 2010. Do you think the general consensus on Correa is that he’s an injury risk?
Not insulting but also far below what he could get on the open market. Lindor, who is better, is likely getting 300M and he is not 180M better than Correa. That’s why he wouldn’t and shouldn’t accept 120
I don’t think the offer is insulting in any sense but I agree he’ll probably get more on the market.
I also see him as a long term injury risk, and I don’t think it’d be the worst idea to let him walk.
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I was quoting Baseball America’s stories on the draft where Correa was picked first overall. The body comparison was made repeatedly, but there was no reference to career longevity as I recall. The ball is now in his and his agent’s court
The real Jon Heyman was first to report that the Astros were in talks with McCullers. The fake account “reported” the 4/40 deal.
Either Carlos is genuinely upset or he’s doing a fabulous job of negotiating in public:
He’s gone.
I would almost rather us trade him as opposed to letting him walk. It’s unreal that he could consider $20 million a year for 6 years a “low offer.” He is a great player and has tons of potential but he has never proved that he can stay healthy. Why give him an 8 or 10 year contract for over $20 million a year when he has only played 150 games in a season once in the past 6 years.