A Republic, If You Can Keep It

Apparently lots of women and young people and minorities voted for him too. Your rationalization is too simplistic, imo.

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I know plenty of white/nonwhite males and females with college degrees and advanced degrees who support Trump (or who would only vote R no matter what).

It ainā€™t about smarts or education.

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Yeah. He got the majority of white women and of Latino men.

This is correct on a macro scale. However, I imagine there are various groups of people (LGBTQ, the people in Ukraine and Gaza) that are more than a little concerned about how things will go when the US throws its full might on the opposing side of their struggle.

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#climatechange

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I had this conversation with someone this morning about the two candidates Trump has beaten: Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris. Both times he did so because women voters flocked to him, over the woman candidate. He could not get that demographic when facing another male opponent. There are things going on there in that space

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Harris made the wrong choice for her VP. Walz added absolutely nothing and Minnesota was a lock to go blue. She should have gone with Pennsylvania governor, Shapiro.

Yeah, I know a few geniuses (both Republican and Democrats} that never went to college.

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Agree that would have been better.

I think the main thing for the democrats is: Why did we let Biden coast to re-nomination when heā€™d said he was going to be a one term president?

This is on him, IMO.

But also on the solid majority of Americans who decided to back a rapist / felon / reality tv star / traitor / guy who lost money running casinos in the 90s.

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I do too, and the reason is consistent across the board: Trump has no agenda or no desire to govern or lead. He simply likes being out front. That means they get to push their agenda with him happily barking at the carnival for them. Heā€™s a stooge, thatā€™s all.

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The campaign was flawless. Changing the VP pick is rearranging deckchairs.

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Yep

This is an excellent and dispassionate analysis, imo.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/06/politics/takeaways-election-day?cid=ios_app

You donā€™t really believe this, do you? Flawless? Even my deep, deep blue friends donā€™t believe this, with one saying to me this morning, ā€œweā€™re just so bad at thisā€.

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We elected a black man twice but not either the white woman or the black woman despite them both facing the most flawed - male - nominee in human history. Itā€™s not subtle.

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I personally believe Kamala, unlike Clinton, ran an excellent campaign. Questioning it now is the wisdom of 20-20 hindsight. Tell your blue friends to become professional political advisors. The Democratic Party has seen its traditional base erode.

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You canā€™t persuade unpersuadable voters. What is clear now is that there is a swath of racism and misogyny in the voting population that keeps its bigotry quiet until it hits the ballot box.

Fair enough. Let me rephrase: Among white males without college degrees, of which there are many, Trump received 65% of the vote to Harrisā€™ 33%, according to statistics displayed on the CBS broadcast. Itā€™s among the largest gaps in one particular demographic between the two candidates.

According to the statistics CBS showed last night, Harris received 54% of the female vote to Trumpā€™s 44%.

Keeps it quiet? In what world do you live that itā€™s not on display in giant neon lights?

I respectfully disagree about her campaign being flawless. And I was referring to the original placement of the deck chairs. Meaning, going with Shapiro from the get go, not replacing the already chosen Walz with Shapiro.