2023 Roster

Its really hard to compare AAA numbers to MLB numbers but since you brought it up.

Leon
since May 1st: .264 avg, .864 ops
since June 1st: .323 avg, 1.139 ops

Julks
since May 1st: .221 avg, .610 ops
since June 1st: .200 avg, .631 ops

This is more about finding some way to replace Julks on this roster than moving Leon up. He just looks to be the best candidate if a trade isn’t made.

And this team can’t absorb Julks lack of hitting. Its not like he is contributing run saving defense, or making $20M per year with no options.

And Dusty is starting him 2/3 of the time while sitting Diaz, Chas, or Meyers to get him in the lineup.

If Dana Brown’s public comments mean anything – and you never truly know with GMs – then Diaz seems to be the catcher of the future. And if that’s true, I’m guessing Lee gets dealt at the trade deadline.

(That doesn’t change your point about him needing to play every day; more ABs seems helpful whether he’s the future or trade bait.)

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You 100000 percent can absorb Julks if he’s being used as the 4th or 5th outfielder. Dusty choosing to start him makes minimal sense, but what else is new.

Leon’s number are better at a vastly inferior league, sure. But again, he’s not going to change the direction this team is going. And clearly the front office and/or Dusty think highly enough of Julks that Leon hasn’t been called up yet. What you’re doing is grasping at straws/rearranging the deck chairs, and it’s pretty silly.

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I understand about Lee.

But at some point, getting the 13 position players who give you the best chance to win trumps development.

Salazar is not one so its Lee, or Berryhill, or some pickup from the recycle pile.

This is the 2023 Astros team, not the 2013 team.

Brown sent Lee back down to get playing time, but now has over 175 g and 750 PA at AAA or MLB level. Working w/ Maldy and the Astros pitching coaches while playing 2 days per week should allow him to help the team while not hindering his development much.

Not to mention that bringing up Leon also means DFAing somebody which tightens the roster crunch even more when you make trades to add major league players. If you’re gonna do that, you better be damn confident you’re getting an upgrade.

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Is Julks out of options?

You are right about me grasping at straws. I am panicking because its been a long time since I have had these kinds of doubts.

This team needs a proven MLB run producing bat.

And about Julks, I agree his playing time is a bigger issue than his poor production. He needs to be the 5th OF playing once per week.

You can send McCullers to the 60 day IL to avoid DFAing someone.

No but the 40man is full

You can and yeah that opens up 1 slot but doesn’t fix the issue, just kicks it down the road a few weeks

Having a spare parts catcher because your backup catcher is a good hitter and you want to utilize that/not end up in a totally fucked position if you need to PH the backup guy is NOT where you want to put someone that you’re trying to develop for the future. That is CRAZY.

Every. Single. Team in the bigs has at least one specialty guy on the roster that either is a bad hitter of bad fielder, but gets playing time when needed in a pinch. Your 13th field player is not going to be a big impact guy, he’s there because he’s the extra part you need in case of emergency/injury.

Pedro Leon is a slightly less good player than 4 of the 5 current outfield pieces, assuming that he can play as well as Julks in the bigs, which is not a guarantee. It’s absolutely crazy to think calling him up is a good idea right now.

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They’ve got five of them, but four of them are in major or minor slumps (Altuve, Bregman, Tucker, Abreu) or injured (Alvarez). Abreu and Bregman are showing signs of waking up, and Alvarez will be back after the All Star break. I think you just have to sit tight. Getting a legit bat will likely cost you Gilbert, which seems like a short-sighted decision.

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I concede and accept that my logic was faulty and initiated out of panic.

I still feel Leon would likely be better than Julks, and at least give additional defensive value.

However, even if he is, its very unlikely that it is enough to justify the moves it will require - or the waiting time that will be needed to actually see if it works.

That time can be used getting a real upgrade.

It’s simply not time to press the panic button yet in my opinion. They are 3.5 games out of first. Someone is simply going to have to step up. If Bregman and Abreu wake up, they just might weather the storm until Alvarez gets back. I’m more worried about Pressly pitching like crap lately.

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McCormick-Meyers-Tucker should be the OF on any day you’re not playing Dubon.

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They have the 6th best record in MLB and only played one 10 game stretch of really good ball.

There is no AAA call up or trade acquisition that will make up for well below par Bregman/Abreu and an injured Alvarez.

Abreu has been much better the past 2-3 weeks.

We’ll have to see about Alex.

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Agreed, plus I think Leon brings more value to the organization as a potential trade piece. If I’m right, then better to leave him at AAA and have a team hope he can still perform well in the bigs down the line versus bringing him up…having him struggle and confirming he’s no more than a depth piece for any club that picks him up.

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This is basically the entire issue.

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Eye roll

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