I’m honestly amazed that we’re still lamenting Correa leaving. I guess I shouldn’t be though.
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Especially after the season and postseason Peña had. I don’t have a whole lot of sympathy for arrogant money chasers.
Me either. And, I live that out every day. When people on my staff leave to chase the $$, I bid them a fond farewell and then me and my exec team count the days until they call, begging to come back. And, they usually do and, to this day, I’ve never hired them back. Not out of vindication but because I’ve been able to replace that talent with equal or better talent at greater value. A perfect Correa - Pena analog.
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And I don’t know I’d go as far as to say Peña is of equal or better talent than Correa. But he’s one guy on the team. The idea is to put a team in the field that can accomplish the ultimate goal, and Peña certainly gave them that. I just don’t see how anyone can be critical of the move, even if Correa agreed to play for free.
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Lots of people not yet to acceptance in the grieving process.
I was fairly annoyed at Crane for not offering Correa anything approaching a competitive contract but I got over it once I noticed Peña walking around with the World Series MVP trophy.
Set a high bar is what I always say.
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That is more or less what John D. Rockefeller said when asked how much was enough – “A little but more.”
Someone remind me, who the fuck this guy is y’all keep talking about? Have you nothing better to do? How does one go about muting a thread. It’s just rehashing rehashed fuck-all times infinity.
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Carlos Correa, Jim Crane, or John D. Rockefeller?
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I’m very happy with the Astros and with Jim Crane. I can feel that way and still lament not watching my favorite players for 10+ years like I did as a younger person.
We don’t live in an all or nothing world.
Crane decided on a philosophy that has kept the Astros winning and should keep them winning.
I can respect that, especially remembering some long dry spells.
Thank you all for your interaction and helping me get through the void.
I’m going to stop responding on this thread now.
I fail to understand how 5/$160MM isn’t competitive. That’s $32 million per year and the chance to play on one of the best teams in the league. I believe there were rumors that he was offered a 6th year but I don’t care enough to research that. A 13 year contract provides the team no flexibility and the player has no motivation to perform. He can sit on his ass for 50% of the contract and still get paid.
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Oh to have the wonderful reserve clause back, eh? You might as well lament not being younger; that will be about as productive for your mental health.
The AAV was competitive, but it was well understood that it was going to take 10+ years.
ETA: getting paid even if you sit on your ass was entirely Correa’s point. He bet on himself the first six years, and was ready to cash in. He wasn’t going to gamble that a second time. Even if he sits on his ass, he gets $350MM. He gets it if he sucks. He gets it if he loses an arm to a sawmill accident. That was his only motivation at this point in his life.
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It was a low ball offer in total. You have to look past the AAV and look at the total dollars. He knew he would get a better offer than that and he did. He turned down 10 @ $275M from the Tigers. He ended up with a contract twice the Astros offer from the Giants. No way he was accepting Houston’s offer.
I’m not lamenting what the Astros did. I agreed with letting him walk at the time because I don’t trust him to stay healthy. I think the Giants will regret the deal.
I also harbor no ill will towards Correa. He did what 98% of all ball players in any sport do. He went to the team that gave him the most money. It worked out for him and the Astros. End of story.
I’ll add that those who are very upset with Correa, should brace themselves regarding Kyle Tucker. He’s most likely going to go the same path. It’s just the nature of the beast. I don’t like it, but it is. If he does for two more years what he’s done the last 2-3 years, he’s getting $300M or very close to it. The Astros have never done a contract to that level. Let’s all sit back and see what Crane does.
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I agree with this - just roughing it with his comparable players the past couple years, he’s in the Semien/Bogaerts/Correa range of value. The only question would be if the OF market is lower.
Sometimes it’s hard to realize how lucky we as Astros fans were to have had not one, but two Hall Of Famers spend their entire career with the franchise.
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Agree. They were rare exceptions to what many players do…and we had two of them.
Hopefully, Jose Altuve becomes the third.
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Once again, I am NOT upset with any of the players who left. I simply do not care about them any longer. I do not wish injury or bad luck for them, but I do not give a damn about anything they do good or bad.
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